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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#70601: Dec 4th 2017 at 2:57:49 AM

The U7 Namekians were primarily distinguished by way of the significant members of the race having distinct manners of dress, thus allowing them to be easily identifiable from a glance. You don't have to be snowflakes to be visually distinct. Not being palette swaps tends to suffice - though, admittedly, in this case, the muted color scheme also contributes to it, making what is distinct'' less vibrant and noticeable.

Still, the U6 Namekians in contrast differ in that they are predominantly based on designs we have already seen - they are intentionally designed to look like the Namekians we already know - but as such compared to the rest of their team, they feel like afterthoughts. They're far from the only characters in the Tournamet of Power to have uncreative designs, but they stand out due to getting a slight focus arc dedicated to them.

edited 4th Dec '17 3:02:53 AM by KnownUnknown

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#70602: Dec 4th 2017 at 3:39:51 AM

Who would win in a fight: Saonel and Pirina, or Maji=Kayo?

TwistedGear Don't know how to pilot this thing Since: Jun, 2014
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#70603: Dec 4th 2017 at 3:55:16 AM

[up] No clue, there's no basis for comparison between them. One doesn't even have a fully elaborated on power. And the only real answer right now is Maji Kayo.

Because he still exists.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#70604: Dec 4th 2017 at 3:56:55 AM

The U6 Saiyans look *worse* than regular Saiyans. I'll take standard Nameks over that.

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#70605: Dec 4th 2017 at 5:50:34 AM

The only thing that's distinct about the U6 Saiyans is that they're fucking noodles.

Call me a noodle again, bitch! I fucking dare you!

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#70606: Dec 4th 2017 at 6:11:43 AM

[up] What about buffed super caulifla?

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#70607: Dec 4th 2017 at 7:21:01 AM

To diverge a little bit, I was just gushing over how cool the Goku/Vegeta square off is from the Saiyan saga (you know, the famous panels where they take their stances on the cliff across from each other).

Is there any specific bits of imagery from DB that really appeals to you guys?

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#70608: Dec 4th 2017 at 10:12:47 AM

Gohan seeing the image of a bird taking off, right before he transforms. Interestingly, we see a similar image when Goku transforms against Cooler. Always thought that reference was kind of underappreciated.

Pretty much any instance of Goku utterly losing his sh't has me captivated. Transforming for the first time against Freeza - though the Cooler one shines because of the music and the close-up on Goku's eyes in that moment - and when he snaps against Black and Zamasu.

edited 4th Dec '17 9:05:35 PM by Soble

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#70609: Dec 4th 2017 at 10:23:49 AM

I know a lot of people consider the Father Son Galick Gun against Zamasu to be a pretty stand-out moment. I'd say Gohan and Goku flying towards each other at max power during the recruitment episode to be fairly iconic. There's also Spirit Sword Trunks, for better or worse (I say better).

Non-Super-wise, I'd say that Goku punching through King Piccolo is one of my favorite images of the series.

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#70610: Dec 4th 2017 at 10:31:31 AM

Goku and Vegeta's first fight as a whole is freaking legendary. One of the most memorable for me, and hell for pretty much everyone, is the beam struggle.

though i do love the father-son kamehameha from the cell saga, or the instance in fusion reborn where gohan one-shots freiza [lol]

from dragon ball, i do have to agree that goku punching through piccolo's chest is super iconic and memorable as well.

edited 4th Dec '17 10:32:11 AM by EpicBleye

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#70611: Dec 4th 2017 at 10:45:41 AM

[up][up][up] The music just really sells that rage moment. It really had to, since I can't *really* buy Gohan raging over Android 16 without it.

Now the Father-Son Kamehameha... fantastic. I honestly think the Gohan V Cell fight is, after the Everyone V Vegeta fight, the best DBZ final battle.

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RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#70612: Dec 4th 2017 at 11:00:13 AM

I agree with everything you guys have said about the beam struggle with Vegeta, transforming against Freeza, the father-son Kamehameha, etc. I'll add the final Spirit Bomb pushing into Buu and crumbling his body. When I was first getting into Dragon Ball, I watched the Japanese ending to GT, where Dan Dan Kokoro Hikareteku plays over a montage of Goku's entire life. Hits you right in the feels. A lot of the stuff in that clip stuck with me.

Aside from the action beats, one of the visuals that really sticks with me is Vegeta giving Goku the thumbs up while he's lying in the mud after the Buu fight.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#70613: Dec 4th 2017 at 11:19:49 AM

Heh yeah the final spirit bomb always manages to tear me up.

Everything about it, from the SS 3 theme playing, Goku's final thoughts on Buu before powering up to Super Saiyan one last time, telling him adios, everyone rooting for him to win, Buu's final anihilation & Goku & Vegeta's mutual thumbs up to signify both their victory & genuine friendship at the end.

Iconic in every sense of the word.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#70614: Dec 4th 2017 at 11:22:53 AM

Goku's first transformation into a Great Ape.

Completely out of nowhere, and a real game changer, even if we didn't get an explanation until years later.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#70615: Dec 4th 2017 at 11:27:06 AM

The music just really sells that rage moment. It really had to, since I can't *really* buy Gohan raging over Android 16 without it.

Yeah. I watched the Kai version on Toonami and it just does not work as well.

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#70616: Dec 4th 2017 at 11:30:44 AM

Aside from the moments everyone's already mentioned, I'd also add Roshi beefing up and firing off the first on-screen Kamehameha Wave.

Also, while this moment may pale in comparison to the ones already mentioned, one image that's always stuck with me is the image of #18 pecking Krillin on the cheek. It was adorable while also somehow being threatening, which is a pretty rare combination.

EDIT: Oh! And Piccolo blasting Raditz and Goku with the Makankosappo. Can't forget that.

edited 4th Dec '17 11:32:37 AM by TyeDyeWildebeest

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#70617: Dec 4th 2017 at 11:31:10 AM

Honestly I wish Gohan's SSJ 2 transformation had come after his dad's sacrifice. I know that requires moving stuff around, but I think that would make it a ton more meaningful.

[up] Every moment Master Roshi shakes off the goofiness and goes serious is great. I know that his perverse attitude is a turn off for some but for me that just makes it cooler when he decides it's time to get dangerous.

edited 4th Dec '17 11:32:20 AM by Sigilbreaker26

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#70618: Dec 4th 2017 at 11:42:52 AM

I don't get acting as if Gohan's rage is supposed to be about 16 specifically. He would have reacted the same way if it had been literally anyone else. It was that he failed to save someone (and thought he was going to let the whole world die) that triggered it.

I think him not having some big emotional attachment makes it more powerful because it says more about Gohan as a person.

edited 4th Dec '17 11:44:46 AM by LSBK

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#70619: Dec 4th 2017 at 11:44:32 AM

Yeah, Cell killed an "innocent" pers- android right in front of him because Gohan wouldn't fight him.

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#70620: Dec 4th 2017 at 11:46:26 AM

[up][up]Yeah, the whole reason he turned Super Saiyan 1 was because Goku made him think of all the people (Krillin, Piccolo, etc.) who would die if Gohan didn't get his act together and power up. So it makes sense that when he fails to protect anyone, that feeling of rage and failure triggers his SSJ 2 transformation.

edited 4th Dec '17 11:46:39 AM by RedM

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TwistedGear Don't know how to pilot this thing Since: Jun, 2014
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#70621: Dec 4th 2017 at 11:48:13 AM

For some reason the manga showing Vegito for the first time comes to mind, just how sudden his introduction was, there weren't any panels that showed off his hair or clothes, it was all show off in one panel, and something about that was really striking. Beyond that, I can't think of any from Z aside from the already mentioned cooler movies bird thing. Tiens first Ki Ko ho during his saga was really impressive.....

Okay... I can think of one more... I'm not quite proud of it, but the introduction of SS 4 was pretty chilling Since it was the only form that didn't have the villain present, so it was surprising how intimidating and quiet the scene was. I may have had my gripes about GT but that was the first bit of GT I ever saw and it was actually pretty amazing.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#70622: Dec 4th 2017 at 11:53:58 AM

[up][up][up][up] I guess I can buy that.

Though does anyone else think that Trunks's transformation in The History of Trunks is the best SSJ transformation in the series?

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#70623: Dec 4th 2017 at 11:55:29 AM

I think Goku's first time going Ultra Instinct is a serious contender for best transformation in the series.

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#70624: Dec 4th 2017 at 12:01:07 PM

[up][up] From what I saw in the abridged version, it must be.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#70625: Dec 4th 2017 at 12:39:56 PM

So, any thoughts on what Beerus' "say something" actually meant?


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