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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#70551: Dec 3rd 2017 at 1:42:15 PM

I would like one of the universes right before being erased to try and attack Zen'o, even if it's futile gesture. Just to show what they really feel about him

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#70552: Dec 3rd 2017 at 1:47:01 PM

It's really likely that most here have just met him, so hopefully they'd feel nothing.

As all he's really done is react to the fight and erase the appropriate universes.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#70553: Dec 3rd 2017 at 2:39:20 PM

[up][up][up] Those aren't mutually exclusive and Super doesn't even have that anyway without being forced

Also, I'm not talking about keeping track of "battle powers" - the numerical readings from the Saiyan/Freeza arcs - I'm talking about individual strength levels, power levels as a non-numerical concept. That has been present from the beginning, and stayed that way throughout the series.

[up]x4 I don't really expect the show to be consistent with multipliers or anything, but at least generally consistent with hiw strong individuals are in relation to each other.

Let's not forget that both Super anime and manga have brought back states of multipliers and percentages of power so it's not like the show has completely mived away from that.

edited 3rd Dec '17 2:41:17 PM by Saiga

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#70554: Dec 3rd 2017 at 2:54:45 PM

I've been thinking what if Cauli & Kale pack up & move to U7 to officially train under Goku? While disregarding the whole situation of nonexistence their in.

I mean they were not doing anything with their time over there, Cabba has a job so of course he can't move but Cauli just leads a pack of thugs so its not like she's losing anything 7 she doesn't tale to her brother much. Kale has to come along cause the two are an inseparable duo & the experience might do some good for her.

Besides the idea of Goku being a mentor sounds fun enough. Zeno knows they haven't been doing much with Veggie & Cabbage.

edited 3rd Dec '17 2:55:00 PM by slimcoder

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#70555: Dec 3rd 2017 at 3:28:30 PM

You know, they drew a lot of attention to Vados promptly abandoning Champa, but there was also an understated moment of her bowing to him one last time before he was erased.

Meanwhile, Universe 2's angel had no reaction at all. He wasn't glad like Universe 9's or sad like Universe 10's, he was just unmoved.

Edited by LSBK on Jul 9th 2019 at 4:44:56 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#70556: Dec 3rd 2017 at 3:32:49 PM

Honestly, I'm not sure if Goku cares about mentoring others.

Sure, he might want to see other guys get stronger, and might even help that along, but that is (with the exception of his training of Gohan) more for the sake of being able to fight them later than any desire to help them get stronger.

I mean, I've been wondering about why Goku doesn't start his own dojo (in order to both solve the doesn't work problem that we constantly get from Chi-chi and as a way for him to keep training), and it dawned on me that while it's debatable whether Chi-chi would be cool with that as she just seems to be determined to be as far from Martial Arts as possible (and I can see Toriyama having her veto it anyway for some reason if he thinks there'd be good humour out of it), the real factor is that Goku wouldn't really care about making weak guys better since they'd be too weak to give him good training which is all he really wants.

Edit: [up] I guess 2's angel just considered it a job and all. No beef with them, but not too attached either way.

Speaking of 9's angel, isn't it his job to guide the God of Destruction? Shouldn't he have been making sure that Sidra was better at his job?

edited 3rd Dec '17 3:35:44 PM by HandsomeRob

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#70557: Dec 3rd 2017 at 3:34:20 PM

[up] goku has already a canon apprentice, it's called uub.

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#70558: Dec 3rd 2017 at 3:34:52 PM

I think they should rework the ending so that while he still trains Uub, it's not just him. At the very least add in Pan.

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#70559: Dec 3rd 2017 at 3:37:56 PM

[up] Maybe also add the saiyan girls, if they want to go with the "Goku trains them" route.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#70560: Dec 3rd 2017 at 3:38:22 PM

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Yeah, but he's just doing that mainly so he can fight Pure Buu again in some form. There are benefits to it (another protector of Earth) but he did it mainly to be able to have another good fight.

[up][up] I second that. It sucks that he just dumps Pan like that.

Since we jumped a page, I wanted to point this out again:

Speaking of 9's angel, isn't it his job to guide the God of Destruction? Shouldn't he have been making sure that Sidra was better at his job?

That's from my own post mind you.

edited 3rd Dec '17 3:38:38 PM by HandsomeRob

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#70561: Dec 3rd 2017 at 3:39:38 PM

Well they all have potential so if he does train them he would get actual results in a legitimate challenge. They can all give him a good fight so he has reason to train them in that case.

Also I assume there is a varying degree of care each Angel has in their job. Shaggy obviously despised his guys while U2 doesn't care about the job at all maybe.

edited 3rd Dec '17 3:40:22 PM by slimcoder

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#70562: Dec 3rd 2017 at 3:48:14 PM

I always assumed that he trained Uub because he wanted someone else to protect the earth other than himself.

Most other people have the potential to do it but aren't interested in fighting(which is ok) or the ones that do get left in the dust(that kinda sounds dickish from my part).

Uub seems interested in fighting while also having the potential to become strong enough to protect it.

Then again, that may change.

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#70563: Dec 3rd 2017 at 3:51:16 PM

Whis didn't interfere in Beerus acts of destruction or notify him about mortal levels, so I suppose Sidra didn't really take in the advice of Mojito.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#70564: Dec 3rd 2017 at 3:53:33 PM

[up][up][up] and [up]

Here's a thought: do you think he always hated them, or did he only start doing so after it was clear they were bad at their jobs (because if he's like Whis, then he would have trained Sidra, just like Beerus was trained by Whis, so he had a chance to fix Sidra's dithering and deliberately chose not too because he perhaps hoped Zen-O would get rid of him at some point.

I mean, why was someone like Sidra chosen as a God of Destruction in the first place? Somebody put him in that position, and that person is arguably just as responsible for Sidra being shit at his job as Sidra himself.

edited 3rd Dec '17 3:53:56 PM by HandsomeRob

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#70565: Dec 3rd 2017 at 3:57:28 PM

As I remember Uub liked to fight. That makes him a perfect student. People like him & Cauli who seek constant improvement & strength, who genuinely like to fight. Perfect sparring partners for Goku.

Besides now that I've thought about it you don't need to make him a traditional mentor, of course be funny with it.

"Hey Chi-Chi these 2 Saiyan girls from another universe followed me after I beat them up & they want me to train them. I said no but they won't listen & I don't know how to get rid of them. Is it okay if they camp out in the backyard?"

[up] Their incompetents themselves? They strike me as the type of people to divert blame upon mortal failings & not their own incompetence. I don't think they care much aside from if their doing a good job.

edited 3rd Dec '17 4:00:11 PM by slimcoder

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#70566: Dec 3rd 2017 at 4:00:18 PM

I guess. I don't know man. Something's rotten about Sidra being where he is. Rou can't be helped cause he's kinda born into the job, but someone chose the worst possible counterpart for him.

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#70567: Dec 3rd 2017 at 4:00:54 PM

Someone made Shin Supreme Kai. Granted it was because all of the other Kais got themselves killed, but the point still stands.

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#70568: Dec 3rd 2017 at 4:01:36 PM

I'm kinda expecting chi chi to start yelling at him and then just saying "Screw it" and let's them camp.

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#70569: Dec 3rd 2017 at 4:01:49 PM

Wait a minute, who the fuck is assigning these jobs?

[up] Ha it be hilarious if that were to happen. tongue

edited 3rd Dec '17 4:02:30 PM by slimcoder

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#70570: Dec 3rd 2017 at 4:02:23 PM

While Kais (and Angels?) are born divine, at least some of the Destroyers are ascended mortals, so that's pretty interesting.

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#70571: Dec 3rd 2017 at 4:04:46 PM

I would assume it's either the angels(from Whis training Goku and Vegeta) or the Hakaishin choosing a successor(Belmod).

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#70572: Dec 3rd 2017 at 4:12:34 PM

We didn't see Oob long emough to really know if he liked to fight. He entered the tournament for his village, we only saw him for one day and even though he was excited to train with Goku that's quite different to being Saiyan-obsessed with it.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#70573: Dec 3rd 2017 at 4:28:13 PM

He didn't seem to like fighting to me. He was pretty timid, wasn't he? Goku had to get him all worked up for him to attack.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#70574: Dec 3rd 2017 at 4:40:17 PM

Yeah, he was really nervous. After the fight we got excited by training.

But he could just want confidence/to help his village. Especially since Goku has offered to basically sponsor the entire village.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#70575: Dec 3rd 2017 at 4:42:48 PM

For him to make great gains now with less time to train would be hella inconsistent.

Piccolo and the Humans should have been taking notes from Android 17. Obviously wild animals are the best training partners for closing the gap.


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