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FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#7026: Jun 29th 2014 at 2:09:42 PM

[up]x4 I will agree the Freeza/Goku in Kai still lasts longer than it should, but its much less of chore than than in the original show. Other than that fight, there really isn't any other fight in Dragon Ball Z Kai that I feel dragged on.

But I'm pretty sure that the reason the fight was still stretched out in some regard was so that it would last long enough for Toei to release it on two separate DVD/Blu-ray sets. I mean 90% Dragon Ball Z Kai Part Four was Goku vs Freeza and Dragon Ball Z Kai Part Five features the final episode of the fight. So I'm pretty sure the hooks were, "Buy Dragon Ball Z Kai Part Four and see the iconic battle between Goku and Freeza!" and "Wanna see the epic conclusion to the fight of the century? Buy Dragon Ball Z Kai Part Five! You have to!"

I will admit though, I watch Dragon Ball Z Abridged religiously and I consider it an awesome adaptation of the original show.

[up] The Great Saiyanman Arc was done better in the Manga. To my recollection, there was actually one chapter originally in the manga version of the arc that wasn't adapted. And it's damn shame because its bloody hilarious and features some awesome fourth wall breaking from Gohan.

edited 29th Jun '14 2:13:03 PM by FireShadow

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#7027: Jun 29th 2014 at 2:15:37 PM

Am I really the only person that legitimately loved the Great Saiyaman saga and wouldn't change a damn thing about it?

I've only read one part of the Manga version, but I loved how Videl figured out Gohan's identity in that version.

It was just so.....quick.evil grin

Yeah. Great Saiyaman wasn't too bad. I miss his proper helmet though, but at least it seems Videl kept hit for her own costume.

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#7028: Jun 29th 2014 at 2:16:30 PM

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AHH, MY POOR VOCAL CHORDS!!!

edited 29th Jun '14 2:17:07 PM by Nikkolas

FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#7029: Jun 29th 2014 at 2:31:35 PM

[up]x6 The original Dragon Ball dub is pretty damn good. But I gotta disagree with you on King Piccolo being Sabat's best Dragon Ball role. Sabat's best Dragon Ball role for me is Vegeta/Piccolo in Kai. They both sound awesome.

As far as all the Dragon Ball dubs go, this is how I would rank them:

DBZ Kai > DB > DBZ (Remastered) > DBZ (Original 1999 Dub) > DBZ (Ocean Dub)

edited 29th Jun '14 2:49:39 PM by FireShadow

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#7030: Jun 29th 2014 at 2:51:45 PM

Well at least we can agree on the Ocean dub not being very good. There are still people who defend it as beign better than Funi's.

I mean, I love Brian Drummond as much as the next guy, but he was only good for villain Vegeta, especially when Vegeta lost his mind there during the fight with Goku. But after that? I don't think he'd work at all. (and the clips I've seen on YT of Drummond Vegeta in the Buu Saga confirm this)

Also any time someone talks about the "great" Ocean dub, I remind them of Tien the Three-Eyed Cowboy. Way to totally spit in the face of an emotional moment.

Although the Season 3 dub when Funi first took over deserves a special mention...

EDIT:

Also I have to stick up for DBZ's Gohan going SSJ 2 being better than Kai's. If for no other reason than the narration.

The narration in Kai is really weak.

edited 29th Jun '14 2:57:53 PM by Nikkolas

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#7031: Jun 29th 2014 at 2:54:01 PM

I don't mind when a fight is padded out a bit with filler, like Buu using the Special Beam Cannon or the jobbers trying to help out against Super Perfect Cell (Albeit ineffectually), as long as it doesn't become a hundred-episode affair like Frieza.

I dislike the filler that tries to create whole new plotlines or otherwise stall for time by being entire episodes, like Fake Namek, Garlic Jr., or Ginyu and Bulma. I can understand why it exists, but I don't have to like it.

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FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#7032: Jun 29th 2014 at 3:10:15 PM

I also think that, while Colleen Clinkenbeard as Android 18 is kind stiff, there is certainly room for improvement if she taps more into her Erza Scarlet department. I mean she kinda already does in some cases...

[up][up] The narration in Kai is more in tune with the original Japanese version in that its short but powerful and straight to the point at the same time. The original dubbed DBZ narration has that more "Monster Truck Announcer" feel to it because it's insanely hammy, but I'd be lying if I think didn't it was freakin awesome because of that.

edited 29th Jun '14 3:20:29 PM by FireShadow

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#7033: Jun 29th 2014 at 3:13:39 PM

FT's dub is just one of Funi's best ever, on par with even FMA. (and I consider them both better than Kai)

FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#7034: Jun 29th 2014 at 3:19:24 PM

I think Funi best dubbed work has gotta be Attack On Titan. That dub is amazing. The Fairy Tail dub is also pretty good but not in the same league as FMA, that dub is phenomenal and in my opinion only bested by the AOT dub.

edited 29th Jun '14 3:20:02 PM by FireShadow

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#7035: Jun 29th 2014 at 3:22:13 PM

We're talkin' both FMA and FMAB here, right? Sorry it just irks me when people say Brotherhood is the best dub ever and ignore the original. Much like how was pointed out earlier that Kai's dub has 99% the same voices as the Z dub, Brotherhood has pretty much all the same V As as the original. The only great additions are Kent Williams as Father and the new voice of Hohenheim.

A lot of Troy Baker as Greed is canceled out by a lot of Chris Patton as Greed in '03. Also '03 had the superior Scar. Plus it was great to have Tiffany Grant around a lot as Marta.

edited 29th Jun '14 3:23:10 PM by Nikkolas

TheSexyOne Since: Jun, 2014
#7036: Jun 29th 2014 at 3:25:56 PM

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I'm convinced most people like the Ocean/Saban dub because of how badass Rock the Dragon was as a theme song.

FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#7037: Jun 29th 2014 at 3:30:50 PM

[up][up] Yeah, I'm talking about the original FMA, which gave us Vic Mignogna best ever work and made him a star. smile

...Well, his role as Broly brought him into major recognition and his work as Edward Elric solidified him as a star in the English VA industry. wink

edited 29th Jun '14 3:33:18 PM by FireShadow

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#7038: Jun 29th 2014 at 3:33:47 PM

[up] It blew my mind when I found out the same guy voiced Ed and Broly. That is some fucking talent.

Vic's Ed was definitely at his best in the first anime. I actually liked Ed as a character there.

edited 29th Jun '14 3:34:19 PM by Nikkolas

FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#7039: Jun 29th 2014 at 3:42:47 PM

[up] To bad Vic hates with a passion voicing Broly because of how it essentially kills his voice in every recording. He should take advice from Sean Schemmel on how to scream and yell and not lose your voice. wink

edited 29th Jun '14 3:59:50 PM by FireShadow

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#7040: Jun 29th 2014 at 4:37:52 PM

So I guess you're looking forward to the Kai Buu Saga?

That was supposed to be happening, right?

FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#7041: Jun 29th 2014 at 4:52:27 PM

[up] Yep! Can't wait for Dragon Ball Z Kai's Majin Boo Arc dubbed! Should be awesome! smile

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#7042: Jun 29th 2014 at 4:53:09 PM

So wait, is it "Buu" or "Boo"?

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#7043: Jun 29th 2014 at 4:59:28 PM

Buu was something Funi invented I think. It's "supposed" to be Boo in keeping with Bibidi, Babidi, Boo.

It's pronounced the same way though so I never cared.

"The proper names" is such a sore spot in the DBZ fandom. Would you believe people call him Bajita or something? Also Burori instead of Broly? Ignoring the fact that neither of these names fits in with the whole damn theme of the Saiyans = vegetables....

edited 29th Jun '14 5:02:07 PM by Nikkolas

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#7044: Jun 29th 2014 at 5:01:18 PM

Bibidi Babidi Boo?

Wow.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#7045: Jun 29th 2014 at 5:04:37 PM

At least it's not Fajita.

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#7046: Jun 29th 2014 at 5:11:49 PM

Or as Peter Griffen says it, fa-JI-ta.

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#7047: Jun 29th 2014 at 5:15:18 PM

[up][up][up] Welcome to Dragon Ball. tongue Toriyama loves theme naming. On a larger scale, Saiyans are vegetables, the Ginyus are dairy products, other servants of Frieza are fruit.

edited 29th Jun '14 5:15:58 PM by TobiasDrake

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#7048: Jun 29th 2014 at 5:17:28 PM

Huh, really?

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#7049: Jun 29th 2014 at 5:20:41 PM

Chilled was so outraged by the deaths of two of his scouts that he decreed from now on all his soldiers will be named after fruits.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#7050: Jun 29th 2014 at 5:25:27 PM

Speaking of which, what is Frieza's race called?

Do we know?

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