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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#70276: Dec 1st 2017 at 6:15:59 PM

[up][up] Then again he is a bit "weird" up there.

Goku is an anomaly in every sense of the word.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#70277: Dec 1st 2017 at 6:27:05 PM

[up][up] Yeah, that's fair. The anime at least had them kiss and hug in the filler when Goku woke up after the heart virus.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#70278: Dec 1st 2017 at 6:41:23 PM

Is that what was happening? Why was it off screen?

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bobg Since: Nov, 2012
#70279: Dec 1st 2017 at 6:45:11 PM

The newly explained origin for the Saibamen conflicts with what was stated in the Daizenshuu and their character profile in the first Budokai Tenkaichi game, which stated they were invented by a Saiyan scientist using biotechnology. Now he's saying they come from a different planet than the Saiyans. Just another example of his poor memory.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#70280: Dec 1st 2017 at 7:01:46 PM

Does that really contradict anything...?

That other thing can still be true...they grow from seeds, gosh darn it!

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
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#70281: Dec 1st 2017 at 7:20:45 PM

Probably not but Saibamen always looked like some genetically engineered creature to me.

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bobg Since: Nov, 2012
#70282: Dec 1st 2017 at 7:24:13 PM

No. They can't both be true. They can't both be a separate race from another planet that the Saiyans stumbled onto and trained to act as their attack dogs, and be a bio engenered race created by a Saiyan scientist.

jjj
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#70283: Dec 1st 2017 at 7:26:39 PM

They were a race that the Saiyans found on another planet, who the Saiyans then started to bioengineer.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#70284: Dec 1st 2017 at 7:31:06 PM

Your explanation helps randomness...

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#70285: Dec 1st 2017 at 7:32:36 PM

Yeah that's an easy one:

Random Saiyan #5: Sir, the Saibamen race has been completely killed from all of the campaigns we've sent them on.

King Vegeta: Well make some more!

edited 1st Dec '17 7:32:54 PM by LordVatek

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bobg Since: Nov, 2012
#70286: Dec 1st 2017 at 7:33:05 PM

Yeah, that COULD work as an explanation, were it not for the fact that, in this new interview, he states that they were NOT a weapon the Saiyans created, which is exactly what the Daizenshu and Tenkaichi said they were.

By the way, would Garlic Jr's immortality work as well as Zamasus? is regular Dragonball immortality as good as Super Dragonball immortality? If Garlic got completely de atomized, would he survive in a non corporial state like Zamasu?

jjj
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#70287: Dec 1st 2017 at 7:35:50 PM

So the only obvious explanation is that they were always plants...

Saiya-jins stole their seed...as monkeys often do...

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bobg Since: Nov, 2012
#70288: Dec 1st 2017 at 7:42:21 PM

I don't know. Maybe you could try and handwave it as them starting off as a race that the Saiyans later bioengineered, or they started off as plants that they transformed, but if that's the case, he should have been more clear. I personally chalk it up to his poor memory, as he has contradicted himself before. Maybe when someone sees him again, they can try to ask him to clarify if both statements are true, or if he forgot.

Personally, I want to know other things, like stuff about Frieza's race. I would like to know more about Frieza's past. Why do people never ask those questions?

jjj
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#70289: Dec 1st 2017 at 7:50:38 PM

Bruno can use his power to dismantle things, cut them up, create extra-dimensional spaces to hide objects or himself (at no harm to the object), heal people, harmlessly sever things, harmfully sever things, and travel like a zip line. His powers are pure bullshit.

Not really. All that stuff follows pretty logically from "can put working zippers on anything". If you want to talk bullshit, Gold Experience is right there.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#70290: Dec 1st 2017 at 7:51:24 PM

I thought it was the Requiem version thats absolute bullshit?

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#70291: Dec 1st 2017 at 7:55:34 PM

Regular Gold Experience was pretty ridiculous, too.

Also, Garlic Jr. never really gets hit with anything as ridiculous as Zamasu, so it's hard to say.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#70292: Dec 1st 2017 at 7:58:04 PM

[up][up][up]I'm using Bruno because he's the one commonly referenced as being an intelligent and creative use of powers.

None of what I said is logical at all. The creation of extra dimensional space? The ability to both harmlessly separate things (like Law from One Piece) and separate things as though they were cut? Healing people? Those are all Required Secondary Powers that are a bigger part of his powers than the supposed "primary" power.

Creating working zippers on things would only make sense to connect two things together, or create an opening that does not lead to an extradimensional space. That way, the Required Secondary Powers are actually... secondary.

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#70293: Dec 1st 2017 at 8:31:54 PM

Personally, I like the explanation of Saibamen being attack plants found on another planet better than them being made in a Saiyan bio-engineering laboratory. Partially because I cannot imagine the existence of a Saiyan bio-engineering laboratory. Stealing super-powerful creatures from another planet sounds more like something Saiyans would do.

Hey, when watching Jiren, does anyone else get the impression that he enjoys showboating his strength just as much as the other Prode Troopers do, but in a different way? The entire reason he fought Goku like he did was to demoralize the rest of the fighters by making a show of completely overwhelming and defeating the most notable person in the arena.

From crushing Goku into the ground with his foot, to his arm-fold every time he blasts an opponent with that one move of his, to telling Goku that he'll wait for him to prepare the Spirit Bomb at maximum power, to looking Goku dead in the eye and telling him that he's not worth his time. Jiren's not about the posing like Toppo, but it definitely feels like he enjoys making a show of being the biggest, baddest motherfucker in the room, and he'll make sure everyone knows it too.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#70294: Dec 1st 2017 at 8:58:53 PM

[up][up]Creating spaces where there is none is a bit above and beyond, true, but everything else makes perfect sense. The "healing" he does is more zipping a wound shut than actually fixing the problem, and lethally splitting someone apart would be as simple as deactivating the zipper after the split happens. And nothing space is not exactly a vital part of his moveset so acting like it negates all the creative applications is silly.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#70295: Dec 1st 2017 at 9:02:44 PM

I think you're misunderstanding my point. Those abilities fit the theme of zippers (to an extent), but they're not naturally part of the ability to create zippers. You shouldn't assume someone who can 'create zippers' can do all of those things, because they require more than that basic level to function.

It's creative in a different way. Araki managed to give him a diverse power set themed around zippers, but it's absolutely not a mundane power like people try to make it out to be, it's incredibly powerful because of the special abilities his zippers possess. In effect, he has multiple powers, because his zippers have different properties when using them for different things.

It's not really any more clever than just giving a character similar abilities without the theme.

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#70296: Dec 1st 2017 at 10:14:17 PM

On a previous post, why would Cell try to absorb another Cell? I doubt he would get any power from it, since it's not what he's designed to do

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#70297: Dec 2nd 2017 at 3:01:21 AM

Since he's not purely mechanical, he could probably get something out of it.

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#70298: Dec 2nd 2017 at 3:18:04 AM

It's a medium power stand. Its not as weak as it's powers would seem at first glance but it's not a super heavy hitter either.

What people are impressed by us Bruno's creativity with it, and you only need to see the Prosicutto and Pesci fight to see that.

If you want an example of a stand that is very very seemingly weak at first glance look no further than Jolyene's "can turn herself into string". That's literally all her power is aside from a pretty decent punch ghost and she's insanely deadly with it.

edited 2nd Dec '17 3:22:19 AM by Sigilbreaker26

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#70299: Dec 2nd 2017 at 4:00:21 AM

...we finally talk about Jojo in this thread, and it's the story arc that doesn't have an anime adaption yet.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#70300: Dec 2nd 2017 at 4:04:27 AM

I thought they were just talking about fighting mechanics.

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