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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#70176: Nov 30th 2017 at 5:56:37 PM

Damn that is a good quote. [tup]

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#70177: Nov 30th 2017 at 5:59:00 PM

Had he seen all of Dragonball he probably would have said "damn it Goku use something other than the bloody Kamehameha once in a while".

(okay, I guess the Spirit Bomb counts.)

edited 30th Nov '17 5:59:24 PM by Sigilbreaker26

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#70178: Nov 30th 2017 at 6:02:15 PM

Goku has won more fights with a Kamehameha than he has with any other technique, why does he need more techniques when can get the job done just as well.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#70179: Nov 30th 2017 at 6:02:18 PM

Goku doesn't even use the Kamehameha that often in the manga.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#70180: Nov 30th 2017 at 6:04:01 PM

[up][up] It would be more visually interesting I guess?

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#70181: Nov 30th 2017 at 6:04:17 PM

He uses it fairly often if we go back to Dragon Ball at least. He doesn't use it as much once you transition to Z, but he gets comparatively less fights there.

[up] If all you like is just seeing a bunch of techniques thrown around without rhyme or reason, I guessss?????

Personally I always prefer seeing fighters make good decisions with the tool set they have, rather than pulling a rarely seen move to get a victory.

edited 30th Nov '17 6:05:55 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#70182: Nov 30th 2017 at 6:05:27 PM

[up][up] The Sliding Kamehameha is calling.

He's asking if he's visually interesting enough yet?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#70183: Nov 30th 2017 at 6:06:20 PM

Eh, even then, he only uses it at key moments instead of spamming it to no effect/variation.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#70184: Nov 30th 2017 at 6:06:20 PM

I mean, you say the others are more skillful, but Tenshinhan literally tried to beat Goku with a technique that cuts his speed and power by 75 percent with no benefit other than creating three more weak, slow versions of himself.

These are stupid people.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#70185: Nov 30th 2017 at 6:07:06 PM

Having a lot of techniques only matters if you're skilled at them all and can use them when the situation is best called for. I like versatility as much as the next guy, but you can be versatile with only a few abilities as well.

edited 30th Nov '17 6:12:30 PM by VeryMelon

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#70186: Nov 30th 2017 at 6:09:07 PM

And he KNEW this, but hoped Goku wouldn't notice.

If all you like is just seeing a bunch of techniques thrown around without rhyme or reason, I guessss?????

Personally I always prefer seeing fighters make good decisions with the tool set they have, rather than pulling a rarely seen move to get a victory.

I agree. I wouldn't mind if the DB characters had more expansive toolsets, but only if those abilities were consistent and made sense in their use rather than being tossed around at arbitrary points.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#70187: Nov 30th 2017 at 6:10:35 PM

[up][up][up][up] Well that's my point, he makes use of the move in key moments where it'd be most successful.

A lot of techniques in Dragon Ball are pretty impractical when you think about it. The Solar Flare is one of the very few to remain useful even nowadays.

[up][up] Agreed. A character who can get by with a limited moveset will always be more interesting than one with a million techniques for any given situation.

edited 30th Nov '17 6:11:15 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#70188: Nov 30th 2017 at 6:11:05 PM

Didn't a Ginyu Force member or someone else on Namek say that few races can disguise their Power Level, or did I just hallucinate that?

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#70189: Nov 30th 2017 at 6:11:35 PM

The sliding Kamehameha was cool I guess, and I wouldn't mind Dragonball Z having so few techniques if the battles were interesting. I'm all for "getting the most out of what you have" but 90% of the time that boils down to "fire a Ki blast at him as hard as you can".

Also, Tenshinhan did that to try and track Goku's speed then hit him with a ton of shots. It wasn't an awful strategy, and he only used it when he'd been forced into a corner.

edited 30th Nov '17 6:12:33 PM by Sigilbreaker26

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#70190: Nov 30th 2017 at 6:11:44 PM

Ginyu himself, as he posseses the ability.

[up] That is really reductive and not particularly accurate to the fights we see.

Most of the time just up and firing a huge ki blast is done to demonstrate that it is ineffective.

edited 30th Nov '17 6:13:01 PM by Saiga

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#70191: Nov 30th 2017 at 6:11:51 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] Fuck thats exactly what Future Trunks did.

Busted out a random new (for him at least) move against Merged Zamasu.

edited 30th Nov '17 6:12:04 PM by slimcoder

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#70192: Nov 30th 2017 at 6:40:39 PM

He used it twice against Raditztongue

Very funny.

And he appeared to use it the way it was intended against Nappa.

We still don't really have a confirmation of that since it's fired off as a more generic ki blast, though we admittedly don't have any evidence against it either.

I think the good thing about techniques being one-offs is that they'd eventually suffer the Worf Barrage or just become repetitive. Most are variations of 'kill them dead' so you can just stick to basic stuff.

...this is true, thought maybe if the default situation for a new technique wasn't and then it utterly fails we wouldn't have to worry about that.

You guys said a lot of other stuff here (the Bruce Lee quote was good. I'd forgotten that one), but I can't keep up with all of it, and by the time I quote everything, my post will read TLDR lengths, so I'm just gonna bow out here more or less and let things go on.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#70193: Nov 30th 2017 at 7:04:19 PM

So, the best fights are the ones that introduce new techniques that obviously won't be used again?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#70194: Nov 30th 2017 at 7:06:56 PM

...no. Whether new techniques are introduced, fail, and then are never seen again, or only old techniques are used really has no impact on the fight.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#70195: Nov 30th 2017 at 7:09:56 PM

They don't...but also it's really not saying much.

There was only ever new techniques being introduced per fight in Z.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#70196: Nov 30th 2017 at 7:25:00 PM

Techniques being used once lets those scenes stand out more, even if they don't succeed. Stuff like the Galick Gun vs Kamehameha is an iconic moment of the series, and makes the GG quite popular despite that being the only appearance of the move.

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
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#70197: Nov 30th 2017 at 7:26:14 PM

Didn't Trunks and Vegeta do a Father-Son Galick Gun during the Goku Black arc?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#70198: Nov 30th 2017 at 7:34:32 PM

I mean, only appearance in the manga. Other media tend to repeat the techniques, and the anime has Cell even use it.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#70199: Nov 30th 2017 at 7:37:44 PM

Scenes should standout because moves look cool...

The techniques themselves don't look that coolio...

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#70200: Nov 30th 2017 at 7:40:29 PM

Eh, that seems pretty superficial to me.


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