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#6976: Jun 27th 2014 at 11:33:58 AM

How strong WAS Piccolo when he fused with Nail, exactly?

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#6977: Jun 27th 2014 at 12:13:21 PM

Unknown. He was at either 1,220 or 3,500 when he fought Nappa, and then traveled to King Kai's planet and didn't actually participate in much of the training there. King Kai's training was what accelerated Goku to 8,000, still a far cry from Nail's 42,000, and Goku actually trained hard and participated.

So we can assume that Piccolo is somewhere between 4,000-8,000 while Nail is 42,000. Together, they make over 1,000,000.

edited 27th Jun '14 12:14:23 PM by TobiasDrake

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#6978: Jun 27th 2014 at 2:33:02 PM

Yeah, Namekian fusion is ridiculous. Dragon Ball Multiverse came to the "logical" conclusion about it: 130 fused Namekians, which is like as you pointed out, a >Super Saiyan 130, were able to make short work of a version of Buu who absorbed everything in the universe, and the sad part is, it made sense from what we've seen.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#6979: Jun 27th 2014 at 2:41:55 PM

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But isn't there a reason they can't actually do that in the mina series?

I think it has something to do with Warrior type Namekians and Healer types and shit like that.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#6980: Jun 27th 2014 at 4:58:12 PM

@Tobias I'm not saying it's a good reason, but there is a reason given for things like Piccolo's absurd boost. Yeah, the Freeza arc escalates things way too much, but it's not like shit happens for absolutely no reason.

[up] Probably thinking about the guidebooks that say only those of the same clan can use the fusion technique, meaning Piccolo and Nail can't fuse with the other Namekians.

Although there's also Nail in the manga saying Piccolo's strength will be multiplied many times because Nail is also a fighting-type. The other Namekians aren't, so just fusing with the rest of them won't work.

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#6981: Jun 27th 2014 at 5:10:17 PM

[up]I see.

Then again, Multiverse does it's own thing.

I suppose it's possible that the Namekians of that world either weren't bound by that rule, or didn't have the clan separation clause to prevent it.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#6982: Jun 27th 2014 at 5:26:16 PM

Salagir ignores the guidebooks. And I think the bigger problem is that with a lack of other fighting types the other fusions wouldn't give as big a boost.

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#6983: Jun 27th 2014 at 5:26:59 PM

Salagir ignores.....a LOT of things...

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#6984: Jun 27th 2014 at 5:49:58 PM

[up]x5: I hear that a lot, but everyone quoting that conveniently forgets about Piccolo and Kami.

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#6985: Jun 27th 2014 at 5:54:42 PM

No they don't, they just realise that's not at all the same thing. They didn't just fuse with the Namekian technique, as they're two halves of the same being. They came together.

It's exactly like the Boos, they merged despite Boo not using absorption.

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#6986: Jun 27th 2014 at 5:55:55 PM

[up]I thought he did use it when he ate him, and that's why he turned into the Evil Buu-like Super Buu rather than Fat Buu again.

edited 27th Jun '14 5:56:08 PM by BaffleBlend

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#6987: Jun 27th 2014 at 5:56:24 PM

Which doesn't happen to other people he eats. He turned to Super Boo because that's the same identity as the grey Boo.

edited 27th Jun '14 5:57:01 PM by Saiga

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#6988: Jun 27th 2014 at 8:21:37 PM

Think of it as Super Bu being closer to his old self while keeping the greater power of his fat self (who I think was stronger than original Buu up until they were separated).

How's that grab all of you?

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#6989: Jun 27th 2014 at 8:29:24 PM

It's more likely that Fat Boo was weaker than Pure Boo, unless you think he powered up right before he split. Also, Evil Boo is definitely stronger than Fat Boo, again unless you think Fat Boo reached that level as he split.

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#6990: Jun 27th 2014 at 8:40:40 PM

I think Fat Buu was the strongest in terms of raw power, but he had more restraint than Super Buu, and even Super Buu had more restraint than Kid Buu.

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#6991: Jun 27th 2014 at 8:48:28 PM

Really doesn't make sense with what actually happens though. And Fat Boo didn't really have any restraint.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#6992: Jun 27th 2014 at 9:05:58 PM

He was more controllable than Kid Buu though.

As in if you offered him something, or acted a certain way, you could keep him in check, in contrast to Kid Buu who did crazy shit for crazy's sake.

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#6993: Jun 28th 2014 at 12:14:32 AM

One of my favorite moments.

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#6994: Jun 28th 2014 at 12:25:01 AM

So I've noticed around the Internet a lot of dub fans hate the Dragon Ball Z Kai dub because of the new voices...but with the exception of Bulma and Gohan the principle cast is the exact same as the one Funimation has been using since they dumped Saban/Ocean Studios. Yet I keep seeing that argument that the "new" voices suck.

Nostalgia Filter at its worse.

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#6995: Jun 28th 2014 at 1:46:51 AM

The New voices Suck...very simple!!

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#6997: Jun 28th 2014 at 2:53:08 AM

From what I could tell before I stopped watching...there were more than 2 changed voices.

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#6998: Jun 28th 2014 at 4:28:29 AM

Frieza's voice was a definite improvement. I couldn't really tell the difference with everyone else.

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#6999: Jun 28th 2014 at 8:27:53 AM

[up](x5)

Is it possible that the voice actors have aged, or that they brought a new method to their voice-acting and sound different? A la not a Nostalgia Filter?

I like Frieza and 18's old voices a lot more. Goku and Vegeta sound markedly different.

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#7000: Jun 28th 2014 at 9:15:46 AM

18 and Gohan's voices are worse. Gohan is annoying in Kai and 18 sounds way too feminine for a tomboy delinquent.

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