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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#69176: Nov 21st 2017 at 3:21:31 PM

I think it was the point that he stumbled upon the Super Saiyan. The whole point at the time was intense rage or something.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#69177: Nov 21st 2017 at 3:46:54 PM

I do love that particular piece of fanart, mostly because the mental image of Jiren with a Scouter amuses me.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#69178: Nov 21st 2017 at 4:06:10 PM

The Dragonball Super WMG page is getting too big. Would it be alright if I make a WMG page for the Universal Survival Arc theories, since that's the main source of the overloaded size?

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#69179: Nov 21st 2017 at 4:18:04 PM

I definitely take issue with Masako's argument that somehow Vegeta, Gohan, and Trunks "earned" the Super Saiyan form more than Goku.

Vegeta literally got the transformation off-screen and when you think about it, how Goku helped Gohan achieve the form really isn't that much different than how Vegeta did with Cabba. Granted, the build up was different since Gohan was an established character for years,

TwistedGear Don't know how to pilot this thing Since: Jun, 2014
Don't know how to pilot this thing
#69180: Nov 21st 2017 at 5:05:42 PM

[up]Vegeta got it offscreen because it worked for the reveal, and we did get a really awesome flashback to how he got it (Really the best Super form unlocks both happened in flashbacks).

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#69181: Nov 21st 2017 at 5:08:41 PM

That flashback was only in the anime, and saying it "worked for the reveal" doesn't change that it happened off-screen.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#69182: Nov 21st 2017 at 5:10:58 PM

After Goku's Super Saiyan scene, every Super Saiyan form acquisition was offscreen in the manga. The only exception was Gohan's Super Saiyan 2.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#69183: Nov 21st 2017 at 5:33:48 PM

Pretty much, unless it's the the debut of the form, almost everyone else who acquires a new form does so off screen. Goku & Vegeta got SSJ 2 offscreen. Gotenks got SSJ 3 offscreen, and Vegeta got SSJB offscreen.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
TwistedGear Don't know how to pilot this thing Since: Jun, 2014
Don't know how to pilot this thing
#69184: Nov 21st 2017 at 5:36:59 PM

[up][up]And with that realization Super Sayain Blue makes so much more sense.

And yeah Vegetas super Saiyan form was anime, so what? It's also one of the most memorable scenes in the series.

edited 21st Nov '17 5:37:24 PM by TwistedGear

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#69185: Nov 21st 2017 at 5:37:37 PM

They can't even bother to give a decent explanation in Vegeta's case.

They could have just said he used the God ritual to unlock God mode but noooooo he somehow trained hard enough to get it.

Its bullshit because why won't you use the easy canon method, unlocking it via training doesn't make him look badass it just makes things look questionable.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#69186: Nov 21st 2017 at 5:40:28 PM

[up][up]Because you brought it up as if it actually changes anything about how Vegeta became a Super Saiyan. It's not a comment on whether the scene was good or not.

edited 21st Nov '17 5:42:18 PM by LSBK

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#69187: Nov 21st 2017 at 5:41:12 PM

Well that's how Toriyama did it.

I mean, the only thing about it that makes sense is that Vegeta would want to get it on his own without a ritual. He shouldn't be able to, but considering who we're talking about I'm not surprised he'd try anyway.

Edit: A random question.

Why did Goku want Gohan to become a Super Saiyan again? I mean, this was before the Cell Games were announced, and even before Cell became perfect. There was no real point to it outside of having another Super Saiyan to spar with.

edited 21st Nov '17 5:44:22 PM by HandsomeRob

One Strip! One Strip!
TwistedGear Don't know how to pilot this thing Since: Jun, 2014
Don't know how to pilot this thing
#69188: Nov 21st 2017 at 5:52:49 PM

Oh, that reminds me, did anyone notice that the original super Saiyan god backstory in Battle of gods and the U7 Sadala backstory kindof fixes that Plot Hole from Z filler where King Kai claims the Saiyans home planet was destroyed when the planets Kami, a pure-hearted Saiyan called down a meteor shower? Like if we assume that King Kai just mixed up Vegeta and Sadala, or intentionally told of Sadalas destruction to avoid telling Goku about Frieza, the stories kindof match up. Now, I know that's probably not what they were going for, but considering the original concept SSG was going to have a cape and what we see of the Kami of the Saiyan Planet showed they had a cape... It's just something I found interesting....

[up]Well knowing Goku, he probably just wanted his son to become a Super Saiyan so he'd have a sparring partner that actually lives in the same house as him.

Wonder if he thought something similar when he married chichi....

edited 21st Nov '17 5:56:21 PM by TwistedGear

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#69189: Nov 21st 2017 at 5:59:55 PM

Well knowing Goku, he probably just wanted his son to become a Super Saiyan so he'd have a sparring partner that actually lives in the same house as him. Wonder if he thought something similar when he married chichi....

That actually does make sense. I mean, it's only after Gohan became a Super Saiyan that Goku realized Gohan was stronger than him.

One Strip! One Strip!
Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#69190: Nov 21st 2017 at 6:16:51 PM

So, how accurate are these videos?

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#69191: Nov 21st 2017 at 8:15:58 PM

Frieza's comparison is the best.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Kytseo Since: Jul, 2010
#69192: Nov 21st 2017 at 9:21:13 PM

Re-asking my question, should someone add the relevant Dr. Slump characters to the Dragon Ball character pages?

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#69193: Nov 21st 2017 at 9:51:24 PM

Eh, I'd say not. Dr. Slump and Dragonball are separate series that have happened to cross over a couple of times. Let Dr. Slump characters go on the Dr. Slump character page.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#69194: Nov 21st 2017 at 9:58:25 PM

An addition that just has a short bio followed by a link to the Dr. Slump character page should suffice. That's what we usually do in situations like that.

edited 21st Nov '17 9:58:45 PM by KnownUnknown

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#69195: Nov 21st 2017 at 10:14:36 PM

[up]x5

The first video is mostly accurate, the bottom one is just memes. Not that I'm complaining.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#69196: Nov 21st 2017 at 10:31:59 PM

Hey can someone post that scene of Krillen in like an imagine sequence I think saying to 18 & Marron "I'm a good father & husband" or something like that.

I don't remember the exact detail of that sequence but I thought it was really funny.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#69197: Nov 21st 2017 at 10:59:25 PM

Okay time to watch a terrible movie!

I mean I am totally giving this a fair chance I am sure it could surprise me. I mean I am not prejudged against it at all it totally has an equal chance of being great as being completely awful sludge.

Stripper fairies and a crappy band made of plushies?

edited 21st Nov '17 11:00:58 PM by Arha

Kytseo Since: Jul, 2010
#69198: Nov 21st 2017 at 11:05:00 PM

[up][up] @slimcoder, your wish has been granted.

edited 21st Nov '17 11:11:47 PM by Kytseo

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#69199: Nov 21st 2017 at 11:08:21 PM

Wasn't there a one year limit on resurrections?

Why is Shenron talking shit? He got wrecked by the original Piccolo, he can't do a thing to Tagome and Sorbet.

edited 21st Nov '17 11:10:20 PM by Arha

Kytseo Since: Jul, 2010
#69200: Nov 21st 2017 at 11:10:50 PM

If [up], and [up][up], refer to Dragon Ball Evolution, yes. The fact that not!Goku only wished back Roshi makes him, by default, stupider than the actual character.

EDIT: nvm, wasn't talking about that dumb film

edited 21st Nov '17 11:12:54 PM by Kytseo


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