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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#68926: Nov 19th 2017 at 4:56:37 AM

Alright then this is officially the first time Fusion was a complete bust in a one on one match.

Gotenks was stronger, Vegito was stronger (both Super & Blue), Gogeta was stronger (Super & SS 4) but Kefla was no match for mothafucking Son Goku. [awesome]

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#68927: Nov 19th 2017 at 5:00:24 AM

Dragon Ball Super Manga Chapter 30 translated.

-Daishinkhan announces the Tournament of Power and reveals that the winning participant will get to make a wish from the Super Dragon Balls

-Champa started collecting them again and was forced to give up the three in his possession.

-Daishinkhan reveals to everyone that the winning universe's prize will be "do nothing" as in survive the Zeno purge of the competing universes.

-Beerus blames Kaioshin for failing his universe by letting mortals get strong on their own, while Kaioshin fires back at Beerus for sleeping all the time

-The participating universes are given 38 hours to gather their teams for the Battle Royale

-Beerus initially blames Goku for the mess but Kaioshin quickly points out Goku inadvertently saved them since Zeno was just about to wipe everyone out before Goku showed up.

-Kaioshin states his worry of the innocent life that will be lost because Universe 7's mortal level has been increasing.

-Whis warns Goku not to try to convince the Zenos to change their mind otherwise Goku could be erased on the spot.

-Belmond is very interested in the Super Dragon Ball wish

-U11's Kaioshin is concerned that the Pride Troopers might not go along willingly with a God of Destruction's plans

-Belmod counters that it doesn't matter which Pride Troopers show up as long as they have Jiren on their side since to him, Jiren makes it an automatic win and there is no way Jiren would refuse participating.

-Goku doesn't hide the stakes of the tournament to Goku and Bulma, Bulma just seems exasperated and calls Goku a "battle junkie"

-Vegeta refuses to participate since Bulma's pregnancy is near due, but Whis uses his divine power to make Bulla appear in the sky above them diaper and all, catching her in a blanket thus allowing Vegeta to enter the tournament

-Goku states it's his first time seeing a baby being born and assumes that all babies are born that way

-With the destruction of Planets Vegeta, Sadala, and Namek there are 28 planets with intelligent mortal life in Universe 7

-Bulma asks if there are other planets with strong fighters, Kaioshin admits he never observed their battle potential so they have no choice but to go with the fighters on earth due to the time limit

-Vegeta asks if Gohan can fight, Goku argues against it since Gohan seems so busy these days and tries to suggest Goten and Trunks instead, Vegeta chastises Goku not to drag the kids into it so nobody else could find out

-Goku then comes up with Roshi, Krillin, and Tien then comments about how much stronger #18 is than Krillin

-Goku wonders if #18 can join because she's a cyborg, but Bulma states that she's a human modified on a cellular level so Vegeta suggests #17 should join as well

-Vegeta tells Goku to stop by and pick up Senzu beans, but Whis says they aren't allowed in the tournament, Kaioshin interjects that they won't need to worry since Mr. Buu has healing magic.

-Meanwhile Dyspo, Vuon, Zoiray, Kunshi, and a Groot-looking Pride Trooper fight an army of crab people led by a giant crab monster while Kahseral helps lead innocents to safety.

-Dyspo saves a young child, but angers the crab leader who attacks him directly, only to have his arm blasted off by Toppo who joins the fight.

-Dyspo playfully mocks Toppo being too easygoing since he became a Go D candidate

-Dyspo informs Toppo that Jiren is on Planet Toware dealing with escapees from the galaxy's prison.

-While the Pride Troopers are distracted, the crab monster launches a foam attack from its mouth, trapping the troopers and citizens, Dyspo attempts a counter-attack but Toppo orders him off since the citizens could get caught in the blast

-All seems lost until Jiren flies down, smashing the alien through the ground and back up through the ocean floor. Then uses a wrist device to turn the monster into a capsule-like form and captures him.

-Toppo and Dyspo ask if Jiren already finished the job on the other far-away planet, Jiren responds that he took care of the "Osshuretto Seijin" and that flying by himself was faster than taking a spaceship.

-Toppo then says he needs to tell the Pride Troopers some news, but Jiren stops him, saying they need to free the citizens first.

-Fades back to Belmod who says that Jiren is someone who devotes everything to Justice, he isn't swayed by selfish reasons and he refuses to kill anyone even if they are evil. However there is one thing that Jiren would wish for even if it means throwing away all his principles.

-Marcarita states that Belmod will be using the Dragon Balls as bait to lure Jiren into the tournament, however Belmod doesn't care for her wording and figures he'll have to talk to Jiren himself and not rely on Toppo to convince him.

-Jiren outright refuses Toppo's request, saying that he is the protector of the universe and will continue to do so. If the universe is to be erased then that's just fate, but he refuses to condemn the other universes to being destroyed by participating in the tournament.

-Belmod then appears and tells Jiren that there's a chance his wish could be granted. All the Pride Troopers appear to be stunned by Belmod's appearance.

-Jiren seems to hesitate, not even bothering to face Belmod directly. He then states that if there are any other problems in Universe 11 at the time, he will drop out of the tournament and return as his one condition.

-The chapter ends with a rather sinister smirk on Belmod's face.

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#68928: Nov 19th 2017 at 6:03:51 AM

The manga is really Growing the Beard, I actually like how Jiren is being potrayed so far.

I like last episode. Glad to know what was the heat Whis and Jiren spoke about during the last appereance of the Ultra instint. I'm glad Goku took away Kefura, no offense, but the Saiyans girls were taking too much spotlight, expecially from Vegeta vs Toppo which I wanted to see.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#68929: Nov 19th 2017 at 6:49:35 AM

If Toppo is a Gen 1 Psychic type, then Jiren is Mewtwo.

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#68930: Nov 19th 2017 at 7:07:20 AM

[up]You're right, Jiren does have radically different personalities in different media.

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TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#68931: Nov 19th 2017 at 7:08:14 AM

[up] Is there a trope for an analogy that actually works on more levels than initially intended? Like, an inverted Analogy Backfire?

No beer?! But if there's no beer, then there's no beef or beans!
Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#68932: Nov 19th 2017 at 8:12:03 AM

I'm curious is this the first time a single individual was able to triumph over a fused being with his own power?

I mean, there's Cell stomping Piccolo. tongue

But mor einto what you meant, in every instance prior the fusion always either reached it's time limit before the fight could be finished, or in the case of Vegito just diffused because of shenanigans.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#68933: Nov 19th 2017 at 8:33:42 AM

Pretty much. Fusion has an abysmal track record, often supposedly having the power to win a fight, but never being allowed to do so. It's just another tool to prolong the fight.

One Strip! One Strip!
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#68934: Nov 19th 2017 at 9:21:30 AM

Merged Zamasu had a pretty good showing.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#68935: Nov 19th 2017 at 9:22:48 AM

Gogeta is the only fusion (canon or otherwise) who has beaten his opponent decisively.

This song needs more love.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#68936: Nov 19th 2017 at 9:26:24 AM

He's an antagonist. Of course he was allowed to use it to it's full potential.

When it's the heroes, you can expect it to fail to make things more difficult for them...even though they have to win anyway. That's kinda a thing with fiction as a whole, but since Dragonball is far more willing to have the heroes utterly fail, it gets more noticeable with them.

One Strip! One Strip!
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#68937: Nov 19th 2017 at 9:36:48 AM

Man, that fight was fucking awesome. I love the way Goku moves while using Ultra Instinct.

Kefla Disco Ball of Doom and Christmas Beam looked great, and holy shit, Goku sliding along an energy beam is the sickest stunt in the history of Dragon Ball, bar none.

I'm rather sad that Kefla got eliminated already, because there are no fights left that I'm interested in, except Goku vs Jiren round 2.

It'll be a long couple of months.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#68938: Nov 19th 2017 at 9:46:46 AM

There's still hope for Toppo vs Vegeta.

Frieza still needs to make a move as well. The question is if there's anyone in his weight class (as most of the remaining fighters are either way below him or way above him with no middle ground).

One Strip! One Strip!
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#68939: Nov 19th 2017 at 9:50:25 AM

Like I said earlier I keep thinking either Vegeta will eliminate Frieza, or they'll eliminate each other, possibly due to Frieza eliminating U6.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#68940: Nov 19th 2017 at 9:51:45 AM

Beerus will be pissed at him if either of those happen.

One Strip! One Strip!
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#68941: Nov 19th 2017 at 9:55:50 AM

Vegeta has the most eliminations, right? So if Frieza wants to be MVP and get that Super Dragon Ball wish Vegeta has gotta go.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#68942: Nov 19th 2017 at 10:22:03 AM

Isn't Goku now ahead of Freeza?

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#68943: Nov 19th 2017 at 10:28:46 AM

Jesus christ, I still can't believe the reaction of the majority is still talking about how much time was wasted on Goku VS Kefla. Well the biggest shill character won so thank goodness we don't have to waste time on that anymore. So glad we focus on other things like the bugs, U2 fodders, & the robots who are taking the time becoming a Megazord.

Seriously the only interesting fighters that are left are U 11 & for some reason people think that's not going to happen.

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Yes, Vegeta does have the most scores.

edited 19th Nov '17 10:31:04 AM by agent-trunks

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#68944: Nov 19th 2017 at 10:31:22 AM

The biggest shill character lost, actually. Goku's the protagonist, so of course he's going to be on screen most of the time.

edited 19th Nov '17 10:31:37 AM by VeryMelon

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#68945: Nov 19th 2017 at 10:34:02 AM

-Goku states it's his first time seeing a baby being born and assumes that all babies are born that way

Okay, that's kind of funny, I'll admit.

Did they make that joke in the anime? I can't remember.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#68946: Nov 19th 2017 at 10:37:37 AM

More like being dead when Goten was born.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#68947: Nov 19th 2017 at 10:39:43 AM

[up][up][up]I honestly don't think that's a concept a lot of people accept or even understand.

edited 19th Nov '17 10:40:06 AM by LSBK

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#68948: Nov 19th 2017 at 10:52:35 AM

So like, I'm wondering, what was that red laser form Kafla had? At first I thought it was Kaioken because Caulifla do what she want, but then she just started wrecking the arena with just her aura alone. Everyone thought her power-up would be Legendary 3, but nope, she goes all Touhou on Goku.

... Do y'all think that was her version of Super Saiyan Rage?

edited 19th Nov '17 10:53:16 AM by Rinsankajugin

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#68949: Nov 19th 2017 at 10:57:12 AM

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Is that really a good reason why he got the kill on Freeza instead of Vegeta?

[up]

No that was just emphasis on her lack of control for her powers.

edited 19th Nov '17 10:58:42 AM by agent-trunks

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#68950: Nov 19th 2017 at 10:58:47 AM

Like I said earlier I keep thinking either Vegeta will eliminate Frieza, or they'll eliminate each other, possibly due to Frieza eliminating U6.

Why would Vegeta be mad about that? It had to be done anyway and he already plans on bringing them back.

This song needs more love.

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