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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#68901: Nov 18th 2017 at 9:34:26 PM

I mean, Champa, the character, isn't thinking that. Most of the people here have no thoughts about restoration at all, for themselves or others, as far is can be told right now.

edited 18th Nov '17 9:35:09 PM by LSBK

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#68902: Nov 18th 2017 at 9:35:21 PM

No, let the people hope they'll never come back.

There's nothing wrong with that.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#68903: Nov 18th 2017 at 9:40:29 PM

That move was sick.

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#68904: Nov 18th 2017 at 9:41:21 PM

Frieza ought to exit stage left.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#68905: Nov 18th 2017 at 9:41:35 PM

Watch it be Vegeta that makes the wish that saves everyone, too.

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#68906: Nov 18th 2017 at 9:45:44 PM

I'm sad that Kefla lost, but at least it was to a Worthy Opponent. She didn't go down like a punk like a certain Saiyan prince that shall remain unnamed is inevitably going to.

edited 18th Nov '17 9:45:51 PM by Eagal

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#68907: Nov 18th 2017 at 9:47:41 PM

Is it wrong that I kind of want a repeat of the Frieza fight where Vegeta spends the entire time getting his face stomped in by Jiren while constantly declaring that he's achieved Ultra Instinct?

This song needs more love.
Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#68908: Nov 18th 2017 at 9:48:26 PM

"You see Jiren, you're not dealing with your average Super Saiyan anymore."

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#68909: Nov 18th 2017 at 9:50:07 PM

"I have transcended beyond the level of Super Saiyan Blue! I am ULTRA VEGETA!!"

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#68910: Nov 18th 2017 at 9:55:33 PM

No. Even Better. He does achieve Ultra Instinct...and Jiren utterly destroys him anyway because...

Or to paraphrase, Vegeta will always be behind Goku. That's his fate

One Strip! One Strip!
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Larfleeze Agent Orange Since: May, 2009
Agent Orange
#68912: Nov 18th 2017 at 10:45:04 PM

You know as much as I loved the latest episodes I feel like this arc would flow way better if they didn’t cut to the peanut gallery freaking out about how “Oh no! Goku got punched once, he’s doomed!!” or “Hooray! Goku punched his opponent once, he’s gonna win for sure!” after EVERY. SINGLE. ATTACK.

edited 18th Nov '17 10:46:02 PM by Larfleeze

Do you know what people want the most? Something somebody else has.
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#68913: Nov 18th 2017 at 11:00:48 PM

Oh yeah, 116 thoughts: I liked that Goku had more control over UI this time around, instead of it being a total re-tread of his fight with Jiren. This makes it more apparent that he's making progress toward gaining control over it.

It also seemed like that consciousness preventing him from using it as well as he did in the Jiren fight. I don't know if that's intentional, but it's neat. It's also nice that UI Goku got to win a fight in its second appearance, because it would start to looking really bad if it ran out of time again before finishing the job. And now we're past this segment, finally (although sadly I think that means we're coming up to a lot of episodes where not a whole lot happens).

[up] Yeah, it's pretty bad. Particularly noticeable when the soundtrack picks up, things look tense and they immediately cut to a round of reactions.

Oh, and I dislike Toppo and Vegeta's fight being broken up. That sure went nowhere.

edited 18th Nov '17 11:01:16 PM by Saiga

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#68914: Nov 18th 2017 at 11:10:29 PM

Yea, that was one of the fights I was actually looking forward to and it was basically an afterthought. Now I'm left wondering what is Vegeta going to actually accomplish in all of this besides eliminating fodder.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#68915: Nov 18th 2017 at 11:11:59 PM

Vegeta vs Toppo is probably going to get a round 2 later in the tournament.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#68916: Nov 18th 2017 at 11:12:57 PM

Goddamn it Goku & the Saiyan Girls took too much spotlight.

I was so looking forward to Toppo beating the absolute shit outta Vegeta.

[up] It better.

edited 18th Nov '17 11:13:12 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#68917: Nov 18th 2017 at 11:15:50 PM

Toppo looks like a Gen I Psychic-type Pokemon.

Not even a specific one, just some vague amalgamation of the Abra and Drowzee lines, with some Lorax thrown in there.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#68918: Nov 18th 2017 at 11:33:09 PM

Ultra Instinct's second appearance is in the same arc?

He's already doing better with it?

That's neat.

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#68919: Nov 19th 2017 at 1:12:37 AM

I mean, it's the only thing so far that could possibly be a threat to Jiren, and they're going to have to beat him somehow.

It was inevitable that Ultra Instinct would be coming back.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#68920: Nov 19th 2017 at 2:13:31 AM

I think I've watched that final scene of Kafla and Goku's fight maybe 10 times now, and it's no less incredible than the first time.

Also, major fucking props to Yuka Komatsu and Yukana Nogami (Caulifla and Kale's voice actors, respectively, as well as Kafla's voice actors) for delivering goddamn fantastic performances with more than enough badass screaming to do Dragon Ball justice.

edited 19th Nov '17 2:21:15 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#68921: Nov 19th 2017 at 3:44:04 AM

Well, I'm mixed. I like seeing Goku figuring out Ultra Instinct. It seems like he only has half of it worked out, so that's something he can work to improve in his fight with Jiren for that last push. Kefla didn't really work for me, but part of that was because she was fighting someone that had to punk her to show off how they're handling their new transformation. The Double Christmas (whoever said that, great name) was pretty nifty, though. I could see both the rave attack and it being in Xenoverse 3, which will be fun.

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#68922: Nov 19th 2017 at 4:03:39 AM

I only watch this series sporadically, but I must say I freaking LOVE Ultra Instinct's design and concept. The end of the fight was pretty slick too.

But… yeah, way too much audience reactions during these fights. Also, the name "Kefla" sounds stupid. And is it me or Kefla is basically just Caulifla with a stereo voice?

eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#68923: Nov 19th 2017 at 4:44:41 AM

This ep was awesome. Only think I'm dissapionted is that when Whis said that Goku could evade but not attack unconsciously with his UI, it would be revealed later that Vegeta had reached all along UI that could attack but not evade unconsciously, but alas, he hasn't reached UI yet.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#68924: Nov 19th 2017 at 4:48:34 AM

I'm curious is this the first time a single individual was able to triumph over a fused being with his own power?

Did Super Buu triumph over Gotenks in power or did he just outsmart the kid that time?

edited 19th Nov '17 4:48:48 AM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#68925: Nov 19th 2017 at 4:52:13 AM

He just barely lasted against him, not really outsmarting him and definitely not out-powering him. He was juuuuust tough even that he survived long enough for Gotenks' time to run out.


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