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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#68476: Nov 11th 2017 at 11:29:02 PM

Why is he fighting in the first place?

This is not how you recuperate or recharge. Its completely nonsensical.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#68477: Nov 11th 2017 at 11:32:01 PM

[up] (3) Yes, I guess I overlooked that. Kale was faring better than Caulifa was at least.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#68478: Nov 11th 2017 at 11:33:40 PM

[up][up]According to the spoilers for upcoming episodes (specifically of episode 117): Goku is wiped out again. This time it seems worse, since he can't even defend himself. Guessing Goku, by the end of this tournament, is going to be so tired he can barely walk.

edited 11th Nov '17 11:35:23 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#68479: Nov 11th 2017 at 11:34:30 PM

A'ight y'all, lemme fix y'all's speculations on Kale's and Kafla's transformations! Let's start with Kale on this pic right here.

Kale currently has 3 forms, her regular "Super Saiyan", which is a greenish gold, her Berserker Legendary Super Saiyan, which looks like Broly's, and her Full Power Legendary Super Saiyan, which his the same green hair as the previous form, but with less berserker tendencies.

Now, despite Kafla's Super Saiyan being greener than Kale's, it's still regular Super Saiyan. Both the anime and the game Heroes confirms this. Now here's where things get interesting, the description for the next episode said that Kafla is going to power up, and this particular shot of Kafla from the NEP shows that her hair is spikier and greener, just like Kale's Full Power Legendary. That's the power up Kafla's getting next episode.

Oh, fun episode btw.

edited 11th Nov '17 11:36:04 PM by Rinsankajugin

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#68480: Nov 11th 2017 at 11:35:01 PM

[up] That's what happen when you abuse the Kaio-ken and there are no senzu beams.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#68481: Nov 11th 2017 at 11:35:03 PM

Which might be an argument that Super never should have existed if they were just going to rehash old characterizations and developments without really adding new things to the characters, but, eh.

Yo.

edited 11th Nov '17 11:35:12 PM by Saiga

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#68482: Nov 11th 2017 at 11:39:34 PM

Goku freaking out over Black killing his wife and child isn't new? Goku being pushed to almost dying and breaking through his limits to survive isn't new?

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#68483: Nov 11th 2017 at 11:42:14 PM

Not really? The Goku freakout is new-ish, but its still retread ground considering that Buu had already killed his whole family in Z and he didn't have that reaction. Being pushed to transform is how two of the three original super saiyan forms debuted.

edited 11th Nov '17 11:42:24 PM by Zeromaeus

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#68484: Nov 11th 2017 at 11:45:23 PM

Not being pushed to the brink of death and then transforming to survive it. Closest thing to that would be Korin's Super Holy Water, which was designed to make you stronger in the first place.

edited 11th Nov '17 11:46:01 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#68485: Nov 11th 2017 at 11:48:21 PM

And now for something completely different:

Zeno's dub voice!

(Also, it appears that the English dub is going with calling him "Grand Zeno, the Omni-King".)

edited 11th Nov '17 11:49:07 PM by DarkHunter

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#68486: Nov 11th 2017 at 11:49:43 PM

[up][up][up][up] Nope. His freakout wasn't that much different to what he did during the Freeza fight (when Kuririn first dies and then "are you talking about Kuririn?!") and his transformation is just another transformation.

edited 11th Nov '17 11:49:51 PM by Saiga

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#68487: Nov 11th 2017 at 11:49:48 PM

[up][up]We already talked about that. S'good.

edited 11th Nov '17 11:50:12 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#68488: Nov 12th 2017 at 12:03:55 AM

So it seems.

This thread moves too fast sometimes... can't read it all.

Carry on, then.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#68489: Nov 12th 2017 at 12:05:52 AM

That's the first I'm seeing it, but I tend to hop around this thread.

"Oh, hell yeah! That would be awesome, little dude!"

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#68490: Nov 12th 2017 at 12:13:07 AM

[up]What the "h"...Karrot uses the "h" word?

"Are you talking about Kuririn?!"

"Don't you dare talk about Kuririn!!!"

edited 12th Nov '17 12:15:03 AM by randomness4

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#68492: Nov 12th 2017 at 8:53:08 AM

After seeing some posts about how Goku seems to care little about Goku's tranformaations, I think I am begiining to understand why some fans consider Goku to a psychopath.

Which might be an argument that Super never should have existed if they were just going to rehash old characterizations and developments without really adding new things to the characters, but, eh.

To be fair, they trying to continue where the manga have left off and Dragon ball is really old franchise. It often feels like Super is trying to be Dragon Ball but some of the key people have moved on as Super feels more like a really tame version of Dragon Ball with a lot of the problems that Dragon Ball had exaggerated or ignored. Dragon ball was not greatest show but it was good for what it is and it does appeal to many people.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#68493: Nov 12th 2017 at 9:51:04 AM

At least they explained that Goku was losing because he was still tired, so that's something.

But this makes me think - if Champa wasn't so lazy and took the prospect of the Tournament seriously right from the start, Universe 6 would sweep the whole thing easily. Given that Caulifla is some kind of super prodigy, after getting like what, a year of training under Vados she would leave Goku in the dust. Even if she wouldn't catch up to Jiren, SSB Kalfa definitely would.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#68494: Nov 12th 2017 at 10:27:38 AM

So the clip of dub Zen-O is a preview for the next ep huh?

I was wondering why we were already hearing him talking when I could have sworn that the most recent ep would end with him just showing up rather than saying anything yet.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#68495: Nov 12th 2017 at 11:32:24 AM

[up][up] Champa didn’t have much reason to look at his Saiyans before seeing Goku in action. Super Saiyan wasn’t even a thing yet, so nobody in U6 knew Saiyans could transform and reach far more powerful heights.

I’m not sure on the exact numbers, but I believe most of the other people on the team were stronger than Cabba.

edited 12th Nov '17 11:33:22 AM by KnownUnknown

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#68496: Nov 12th 2017 at 11:42:34 AM

Assuming that Cabba was around as strong as base Vegeta in the U6 tournament, the only fighter on their team with less physical power than him would be Botamo, who has his own broken gimmick.

It went Botamo < Cabba < Frost < Magetta < Hit.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#68497: Nov 12th 2017 at 11:48:50 AM

[up][up]Yeah, but I mean after the U6 vs U7 tournament ended. By then he knew that sayians are the real deal. But of course, neither him nor Beerus really took the prospect of multiversal tournament seriously at that point.

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#68498: Nov 12th 2017 at 12:00:41 PM

It was also less than a year between the two arcs.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#68499: Nov 12th 2017 at 12:44:22 PM

There'd be no time to train, the tournament was only announced 2 days ahead of time, and Champa told them to recruit more saiyans then.

Granted, I have no clue WHY Cabba didn't tell anyone about Super Saiyan until the tournanent.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#68500: Nov 12th 2017 at 1:13:10 PM

Or that he somehow did not learn SS 2 before the tournament.

If people want to circlejerk about the U6 Saiyans being "different", then what took Cabba so long to attain the form when Caulifla did it in....5 minutes? It's not like she's beyond his level of strength.


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