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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#68426: Nov 11th 2017 at 7:43:26 PM

If the idea is that Caulifa and Kale are any sort of challenge to non-Super Saiyan God Goku separately, then of course Potara would make them even more absurd.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#68427: Nov 11th 2017 at 7:53:37 PM

I'm still confused as to how fighting these two will recover Goku's stamina.

Isn't that the exact opposite of how your supposed to recover stamina & general recuperating?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#68428: Nov 11th 2017 at 7:53:52 PM

Man. I don't care about all that shit.

I'm just glad Ultra Instinct is back. That shit is gold.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#68429: Nov 11th 2017 at 7:55:21 PM

Beerus: *with two of his lightest blows, completely defeats Super Saiyan 3 Goku*

Goku: Damn, I bet not even fusion would let me fight this guy.

Kale: *has trouble, but manages to deflect a huge energy ball from Super Sayian God Goku*

Caulifla: If we fuse, we could beat this guy!

Look at all that inconsistency.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#68430: Nov 11th 2017 at 8:01:46 PM

Consistent for Super anyway...

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Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#68431: Nov 11th 2017 at 8:05:21 PM

[up][up][up]no that's 3 whole forms ago.

[up][up][up][up]It's supposed to push him past his limits apparently and let him get ultra instinct

edited 11th Nov '17 8:07:20 PM by Deadpoolrocks

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#68432: Nov 11th 2017 at 8:21:00 PM

How come none the other fighters are fusing? All of the Kais have the earrings.

Just seems like a lazy way to hype up Kale and Caulifla. Again.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#68433: Nov 11th 2017 at 8:23:50 PM

Well there were those two dudes from Ribrianne's universe.

For some reason, they were somehow in Kelfa's path even though there was no sign they were anywhere near them. And even then, the other dude botched putting the earring on because he was too dumb to take off his helmet.

Everyone else is saying fuck fusion though.

It does look like the Kefla thing is gonna come back to bite them since when she gets taken out, she'll count as two eliminations.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#68434: Nov 11th 2017 at 8:24:14 PM

All I wanted was more eliminations and you couldn't even do that, show?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#68435: Nov 11th 2017 at 8:28:23 PM

They went over it.

U2 tried with Rabanra and Zarbuto, but Kafla accidentally broke the Potara.

U3 didn't think it necessary, probably because their robots already have another method of combining.

U4 didn't think it was needed either, which makes sense given how they only have one visible fighter left aside from the Bugs, which the Potara might not fit on.

Beerus considered it, but he decided that their numbers advantage was too valuable to change.

We never saw U11's thoughts on it, but presumably they don't need to because Jiren is already a monster. A Toppo/Jiren fusion does sound badass as hell, though (or a Toppo/Dyspo fusion, to fix that weak link).

edited 11th Nov '17 8:29:05 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#68436: Nov 11th 2017 at 8:29:18 PM

u3 can't fuse because robots don't have ears. unless papparoni fuses with pepsiman

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#68437: Nov 11th 2017 at 8:30:32 PM

Saiga, you're one of the people who supports "base Goku and Vegeta now are stronger than SS 3 Gotenks because Goku absorbed Super Saiyan God's power into his base and Super Saiyan forms".

No I'm not.

Beerus: *with two of his lightest blows, completely defeats Super Saiyan 3 Goku*

Goku: Damn, I bet not even fusion would let me fight this guy.

Kale: *has trouble, but manages to deflect a huge energy ball from Super Sayian God Goku*

Caulifla: If we fuse, we could beat this guy!

Look at all that inconsistency.

Look at that reductive argument. Kale only did that using a form that Kafla hasn't, so the argument is completely moot. Goku should know how strong Vegetto is, so if he thinks it's insufficient against (what should be) less than Beerus' full power, it's really weird that it's so much more effective for the U 6 Saiyans as to put their "base" state in the 'God' tier.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#68438: Nov 11th 2017 at 8:31:38 PM

No, Kafla is using that very same form right here. Green hair, muscles, and all.

edited 11th Nov '17 8:31:58 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#68439: Nov 11th 2017 at 8:31:54 PM

Okay it makes sense that the earrings can't work on the U3 bots.

I'm pretty sure when they were created robots weren't considered a life-form.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#68440: Nov 11th 2017 at 8:34:31 PM

I would find it kinda weird if Kefla is knocked out next week before the namakians. Or before she gets the chance to fight freiza.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#68441: Nov 11th 2017 at 8:34:35 PM

[up][up][up] She's nowhere near the size Kale was, and she's just been described as a Super Saiyan. Kale's own "Super Saiyan" form had green hair and was about this bulky.

edited 11th Nov '17 8:34:52 PM by Saiga

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#68442: Nov 11th 2017 at 8:35:07 PM

[up][up] Okay I hope they fight Frieza.

Dude already said it.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
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#68443: Nov 11th 2017 at 8:36:41 PM

The physical difference between Controlled Super Saiyan Berserk and Mastered Super Saiyan Berserk is almost nonexistent, so I just assume that Kafla is using Mastered.

The height difference is probably because of Caulifla.

edited 11th Nov '17 8:38:53 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#68444: Nov 11th 2017 at 8:40:33 PM

That's a weird assumption, given that she resembles Kale's 'Super Saiyan' form more than she resembles either of the Berserk states.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#68445: Nov 11th 2017 at 8:46:03 PM

So uh about the fusion topic when Gotenks first formed he got his ass kicked by Buu.

Unlike the other examples he didn't immediately overpower him.

edited 11th Nov '17 8:46:11 PM by slimcoder

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#68446: Nov 11th 2017 at 8:46:49 PM

[up][up]Kale doesn't have just a normal Super Saiyan form. She has 3 forms (in order of power): Controlled Super Saiyan Berserk (the more slender form she unlocked in 101), Super Saiyan Berserk (Broly form), and Mastered Super Saiyan Berserk (the more slender form she unlocked in 114). The problem is that Controlled and Mastered look identical.

Kafla is using either Controlled or Mastered, and given her power, I'm assuming it's Mastered.

edited 11th Nov '17 8:47:15 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#68447: Nov 11th 2017 at 8:55:13 PM

okay so when you use terms that others don't it gets really confusing

I'm talking about her 101 form. I don't think it's identical to her "mastered" form at all, I think there are noticeable differences in the bulk and Kafla lacks the bulk of the 'mastered' form.

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#68448: Nov 11th 2017 at 9:01:17 PM

"Thank you, Kefla, thanks to you, I managed to recover it. However, you should understand something: you're just an appetitizer."

"N-nani?"

"Just an appetitizer, the main dish is up there."

I still miss Black. Liked the episode, but it fell flat to the last four episodes. Kefla is fun, but I wanted the U2 fighters (Expecifically, the Magical girls) to fuse. Oh well.

edited 11th Nov '17 9:02:53 PM by Tomodachi

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#68450: Nov 11th 2017 at 9:08:14 PM

[up][up][up]These are not uncommon names for her forms. I adopted them from a bunch of people in other places using them, like Kanzenshuu, among others. As to whether Controlled and Mastered look identical; this is Controlled, this is Mastered. I'm not seeing any major difference between the two.

On an unrelated topic, here's a fan edit of why U3 doesn't need Potara.

edited 11th Nov '17 9:19:51 PM by PushoverMediaCritic


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