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Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#68326: Nov 11th 2017 at 9:55:35 AM

[up] [up] Heh, it even runs out.

[up] Future Bulma created Ki Guns, I don't see how she couldn't create an Powered Suit for her. She could be Iron Maiden.

edited 11th Nov '17 9:57:10 AM by Tomodachi

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felipelight Teacher from Undisclosed Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#68328: Nov 11th 2017 at 10:00:02 AM

Or just the Old Kai release potential technique and make some bullshit excuse that it gives them God ki now because they hang around with gods so much. I can see that happening actually

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#68329: Nov 11th 2017 at 10:00:47 AM

She couldn't understand Gero's tech before, that's why.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#68330: Nov 11th 2017 at 10:05:43 AM

[up][up][up] I know we're joking around, but that does make me think about the rules.

As far as Namekian fusion works he can't do it forcibly (at least, barring a retcon), but lets say Piccolo and the U6 Namekians decide to collude and fuse together for self preservation. Is the person being absorbed as a power booster "dead" for the purposes of the Tournament's rules? If they're not, they're also technically not eliminated - but the remaining Namekian obviously can't represent both universes. Hmm...

Also, lets say Piccolo fuses with the U6 Namekians and becomes way stronger. If the rest of U6 is eliminated and U6 is erased, does Piccolo lose that powerup?

edited 11th Nov '17 10:06:21 AM by KnownUnknown

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#68331: Nov 11th 2017 at 10:43:10 AM

Piccolo fusing with those Namekians wouldn't sit well with me. His race shouldn't exist just to be power ups for him.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#68332: Nov 11th 2017 at 10:43:57 AM

I don't see why Bulma couldn't cannibalize some Gero-tech to, say, make a Sentai-style power suit that could bring the humans up to Piccolo/Android level.

I've been going on about Powered Armour for years myself.

She couldn't understand Gero's tech before, that's why.

And this is when she had blueprints of 17 and 18's functions (letting her create the remote) and the opportunity to study 16 wholesale (while repairing him).

It says a lot about how complicated Gero's tech is that someone like Bulma (and her dad) couldn't make heads or tails or it...the fact that the Z Warriors tend to utterly destroy any advanced tech that finds its way to Earth doesn't help, but then again, I assume that's Toriyama covering his bases to ensure Earth stays shitty in term of those sorts of things. Not that it would matter anyway.

Anyway, it all comes down to one simple thing: if Toriyama wants things to happen a certain way, he'll make it happen. If he wanted the humans to still be competitive, or for Bulma to created her own androids or powered armour for earth, they'd have it.

He doesn't, so humans get to do nothing but watch as more and more destructive forces come to their world to fuck it up, and they have to rely on two fight crazy dudes who mostly only care about having good fights or MAH PRIDE respectively to defend them.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#68333: Nov 11th 2017 at 10:50:23 AM

Not related to the current topic, but Vegeta and Toppo calling each other second fiddles just tickles me. [lol]

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#68334: Nov 11th 2017 at 10:52:13 AM

They ain't wrong.

The difference is, I get the feeling Toppo doesn't care about being second fiddle, while poor Vegeta constantly has that gold ring just out of reach, despite all his efforts, and his legitimate power.

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#68335: Nov 11th 2017 at 11:50:57 AM

Vegeta is waaay closer to Goku than Toppo is to Jiren.

I wouldn't feel too bad if I were a Vegeta fan.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#68336: Nov 11th 2017 at 12:37:42 PM

I doubt that. Even if it looks like Vegeta is close, Goku will either reveal he has a new power that puts him miles ahead, or will discover that power just like with Super Saiyan 3 and Ultra instinct respectively.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#68337: Nov 11th 2017 at 12:41:10 PM

Well Toppo is a hero after all.

They don't really care about stuff like that as long as everyone uses that power to help people.

Veggie on the other hand has an ego & is insecure about it.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#68338: Nov 11th 2017 at 12:44:33 PM

And the gap between Vegeta and Goku is obviously going to become super huge again once Goku masters Ultra Instinct. I mean, until they give Vegeta that out of the blue too.

Which come to think of it is kind of how all of Vegeta's power ups work. They can give a hand-wave about it, but once Goku achieves a new level, I don't think we've ever actually seen Vegeta work to achieve the same thing, some time just passes and it's revealed he's done it. Super Saiyan Blue is just the most egregious example.

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#68339: Nov 11th 2017 at 1:02:19 PM

I agree with Hobgoblin: I don't like all the theories that Piccolo is going to absorb the U6 Namekians because it removes those Namekians as future characters and reduces them to just power-ups for Piccolo.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#68340: Nov 11th 2017 at 1:03:46 PM

They aren't characters to begin with, so I'm not shocked at fans speculating they'l be fused into an actual character.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#68341: Nov 11th 2017 at 1:05:40 PM

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that the very conspicuous lack of appearances and lines for them is for that very reason: they're just here as a power up for Piccolo and the writers just didn't feel like pretending otherwise.

edited 11th Nov '17 1:06:08 PM by LSBK

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#68342: Nov 11th 2017 at 1:15:46 PM

Rude. They just haven't had much screentime. From what we know about them, they're fighters who specialize in teamwork with each other and they're pragmatists who won't hesitate to shoot an opponent when they're not looking. That's not much, but it isn't nothing. For all we know, they could turn out to be immensely entertaining and fun characters who can serve as U6 rivals to Piccolo.

Besides, I don't think the writers want Piccolo to suddenly be as strong as a Super Saiyan God. That's not really consistent with how they're writing him, unlike half of the U7 team, he hasn't been hyped up as a heavy hitter in the Tournament of Power.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#68343: Nov 11th 2017 at 1:17:48 PM

What was rude about what either I or Melon said? And you're making a lot of assumptions there.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#68344: Nov 11th 2017 at 1:19:55 PM

All I know is if they do fuse then I hope to God TFS makes another Super video cause Piccolo would have 4 voices in his head afterwards. tongue

edited 11th Nov '17 1:20:05 PM by slimcoder

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#68345: Nov 11th 2017 at 1:27:54 PM

About what? Their characters? The teamwork thing is on their official bios and I'm basing the pragmatic thing on them attempting to shoot Goku in the back.

I think it's rude to immediately assume "new Namekian characters? They must only exist to fuse into Piccolo and make him stronger, not actually exist to be like the Cabba and Caulifla of Namekians and give Piccolo some people he can relate to and hang out with from U6."

It's not like anyone's interested in seeing and getting a tour of U6 Namek during the same arc we inevitably go to Planet Sadal and Piccolo having some new Namekian friends would be the perfect opportunity for that, right? Nah, people only want to see Piccolo cannibalize every other Namekian fighter in the series just to make himself stronger.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#68346: Nov 11th 2017 at 1:30:51 PM

The character bio thing is interesting but not something you should expect most of us to be aware of.

And, sorry, but we can't be rude to characters, their feelings can't be hurt. Especially when we haven't actually said anything negative to them, just commenting on their treatment (or lack-thereof) so far.

Whether people would be interesting in those things are not has no bearing on what it seems like the show is doing with them. Whether Piccolo fuses with them or not, they just haven't been made out to be important, and it stands out.

edited 11th Nov '17 1:34:30 PM by LSBK

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#68347: Nov 11th 2017 at 1:35:51 PM

Their existences at the moment are cheap fanservice, nothing else.

They prolly thought when they made them that in a universe with alternate Saiyan's & a Frieza they should add in some Namekian's for the Hell of it so people would go "Ooooooh look its some Namekian's, how nice."

You could replace them for any other alien species & it wouldn't make a difference.

edited 11th Nov '17 1:36:18 PM by slimcoder

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Larfleeze Agent Orange Since: May, 2009
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#68348: Nov 11th 2017 at 2:07:28 PM

Y’all gonna feel so dumb when it turns out they aren’t Namekians at all and they’re just those two pink shapeshifters from Fake Namek back for revenge.

Do you know what people want the most? Something somebody else has.
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#68349: Nov 11th 2017 at 2:22:58 PM

At least it's just three out of ten wasted in Universe 6, not all like Universe 3

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#68350: Nov 11th 2017 at 2:44:36 PM

I also dislike the idea that Piccolo will fuse with the U 6 Namekians, but I don't give a shit about their characters.

I am also with Shlugo about the human characters being phased out. That's something I like about DB, the cast was always changing over time. For me, bringing back older characters is such a huge step backward for the series.


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