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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#68201: Nov 9th 2017 at 6:03:43 PM

Present Trunks also got a decent amount of focus with Future Trunks.

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#68202: Nov 9th 2017 at 6:17:07 PM

And even before that, he got the focus in the Tapioca movie, serving as some sort of replacement for Tapioca's brother.

And after that, he was the only side character who was relevant enough to be in Gt... for a while, at least.

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#68203: Nov 9th 2017 at 6:57:24 PM

Super is generally considered better than GT even by its critics, right?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#68204: Nov 9th 2017 at 7:00:04 PM

I'm honestly not even sure anymore.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#68205: Nov 9th 2017 at 7:01:42 PM

I never really hated GT. I don't hate Super but I'm a lot more aware of its flaws than I ever was with GT's.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#68206: Nov 9th 2017 at 7:08:54 PM

[up][up][up] rotten apples and oranges

I haven't noticed that much of a consensus among super critics

Some are even fans of GT

I think Super is having a much larger negative impact on the franchise though

edited 9th Nov '17 7:09:34 PM by Saiga

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#68207: Nov 9th 2017 at 7:09:43 PM

I like them both for different reasons. I like Super Saiyan 4 way more than any of the God forms (I need to see more of Ultra Instinct) and both Baby and the Shenrons were cool ideas for villains. That being said, I think Super is better written (marginally) and turning Goku into a kid was an awful gimmick. Also I like how unafraid Super is to do weird fanservice stuff like good guy Frieza, Kale, and Goku Black.

edited 9th Nov '17 7:13:05 PM by LordVatek

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#68208: Nov 9th 2017 at 7:11:36 PM

I kinda like GT's music better cause I remember the sound-tracks were pretty epic metal sounding or something.

Things are more pop & cheery in Super now.

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#68209: Nov 9th 2017 at 7:17:39 PM

I'd say that, as far as I've seen, the majority of the fanbase seems to enjoy Super more than GT.

Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#68210: Nov 9th 2017 at 7:25:44 PM

People like Super for the most part.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#68211: Nov 9th 2017 at 7:33:44 PM

Super has more "f'ck yeah" moments and memes:

    Ultra Instinct 

edited 9th Nov '17 7:57:17 PM by Soble

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#68212: Nov 9th 2017 at 7:35:05 PM

Oh.

I guess I missed this. I haven't been watching Toonami. RIP Sean's vocal chords.

edited 9th Nov '17 7:36:00 PM by Soble

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#68213: Nov 9th 2017 at 7:53:23 PM

[up]he survived SS3,he'll be fine

edited 9th Nov '17 7:54:10 PM by Fedetropes

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#68214: Nov 9th 2017 at 7:54:20 PM

Apparently he fell unconscious after the SS 4 scream.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#68215: Nov 9th 2017 at 8:06:08 PM

How...SSJ 4 didn't scream during his transformation, if randomness is recalling correctly.

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#68216: Nov 9th 2017 at 8:22:28 PM

[up]I think he meant SS 3,but mistake it with 4

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#68217: Nov 9th 2017 at 8:25:33 PM

No that is what I keep hearing.

I thought it was weird too.

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#68218: Nov 9th 2017 at 8:32:23 PM

[up]huh, that's weird,usually when I hear the "Sean passed out after screaming so much" I always hear it was because of super Saiyan 3

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#68219: Nov 9th 2017 at 8:37:37 PM

Indeed it is weird.

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#68220: Nov 9th 2017 at 8:42:39 PM

I never realized that Goku using SSJB Kaioken X10 ended with a shot for shot remake of his Kaioken X3 Kamehameha Beam-O-War against Vegeta.

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#68221: Nov 9th 2017 at 8:43:07 PM

On the GT vs. Super debate, GT has the GOAT english opening, so it wins in that book.

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#68222: Nov 9th 2017 at 8:46:09 PM

I like Super for the most part. Its tone is more consistent with Z, I always felt Gt was pretty dull with the humor.

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#68223: Nov 9th 2017 at 8:51:12 PM

I like super more,but I do think gt is okay

edited 9th Nov '17 8:52:32 PM by Fedetropes

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#68224: Nov 9th 2017 at 9:04:35 PM

Pretty sure far more people like Super than GT.

Super is pretty bad though. Then again, so was GT.

Guess people just like fights and arcs of Super more than they like GT's.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#68225: Nov 9th 2017 at 9:31:27 PM

It really depend where you're looking. The western forum-going fanbase is a tiny portion of the actual fanbase (and potential fanbase) and dedicated DB forums will lean more towards positivity than criticism, by default.

It also brought in a lot of new fans by itself, thanks to the generational gap between the two shows.

So I don't expect it to be treated the same as GT even if they were exactly the same quality and runtime.


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