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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#68101: Nov 7th 2017 at 8:51:24 PM

[up][up] Oh really?

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#68102: Nov 7th 2017 at 9:29:46 PM

Yeah, both the regular Goku Black and Super Saiyan Rose Black voices in Xenoverse are not final. Sean Schemmel was still experimenting with voices based on what little they knew of Black at the time.

I'm confident the final dub voice will be better.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#68103: Nov 7th 2017 at 9:32:02 PM

It was a bad idea to add Goku Black to Xenoverse 2 before we even knew what his deal was, especially when the arc had already made it obvious that finding out Goku Black's deal would be a major plot point.

edited 7th Nov '17 9:32:26 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#68104: Nov 7th 2017 at 9:37:59 PM

I couldn't stop laughing at how edgy he sounded in base, then all of a sudden he becomes British?

What the fuck?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#68105: Nov 7th 2017 at 9:45:18 PM

It's only fitting of Kakarrot Black to sound as he does...

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#68106: Nov 7th 2017 at 9:57:03 PM

Eh, it didn't really matter. It was only a problem for the dubbing.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#68107: Nov 7th 2017 at 10:03:32 PM

He sounds better than Zamasu at least...good god.

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#68108: Nov 7th 2017 at 10:32:36 PM

I refuse to believe the voice actor of Zamasu wasn't phoning it in.

There just wasn't any effort whatsoever. At least Sean put some heart into his Black voice.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#68109: Nov 7th 2017 at 11:00:05 PM

If Merged Zamasu retained Black's No-Nonsense Nemesis qualities and killed Goku, Vegeta and Future Trunks as immediately as possible, then killed Gowasu for the third time and Shin, I wish to know to outcome of the following:

  • How the life link would work when one of the two is killed in the relative future and a different timeline of the other. Would it even connect to Beerus through that, or will he be fine until he enters that timeline? I think he would
  • Could Merged Zamasu use the Kaioken, as one of his components is physically Son Goku after already knowing Super Saiyan Blue x10 Kaioken?

edited 7th Nov '17 11:00:15 PM by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#68110: Nov 7th 2017 at 11:05:27 PM

Merged Zamasu almost certainly would be capable of using the Kaioken, and with his immortal body there'd probably be no limit to how high he could push it. Kaioken x 1,000,000 Zamasu vs Zen-Oh.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#68111: Nov 7th 2017 at 11:09:24 PM

XV 2 has unused voice data for Black using Kaio-ken, and Vegetto using Kaio-ken, so we may have gotten that if it wasn't dummied out.

[up] Didn't anime Merged Zamasu lose his immortality?

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#68112: Nov 7th 2017 at 11:13:18 PM

Yes and no. Regular Zamasu, with his immortality, couldn't even be harmed: any damage done would instantly heal. Merged Zamasu could be harmed, and his body was breaking down as the fight went on.

On the other hand his spirit seemed to be invulnerable. Even after his body was destroyed, he didn't "die".

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#68113: Nov 7th 2017 at 11:16:30 PM

Anime Merged Zamasu was SO immortal, when Trunks disintegrated his body, the universe itself decided that he was still alive and made his soul into a universe consuming wave of corruption.

Luckily for our heroes, Zen-Oh is powerful enough to tell the universe to go fuck itself.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#68114: Nov 8th 2017 at 6:06:36 AM

Could Merged Zamasu use the Kaioken, as one of his components is physically Son Goku after already knowing Super Saiyan Blue x10 Kaioken

When Ginyu took Goku's body he didn't know about, or how how to use the Kaioken.

When Zamasu took control of Goku's body, and I might be mixing the anime with the manga here, but I'm pretty sure he didn't know how to Super Saiyan right off the bat. And even after he figured out Super Saiyan Miracle Pink he still didn't attempt Kaioken, not even while Vegeta was pounding him into the dirt with Super Saiyan Trojan Enz.

And if all of that pressure wasn't enough to make him use a technique that could have instantly flipped the tables on them - I mean Black might be more like Goku in wanting an honest-to-goodness fight, but that didn't stop him from stabbing Vegeta in the chest.

Which could just mean that he's become even more Goku-like and sandbagging to an absurd degree. But still. If Zamasu had figured out, or could have used Kaioken, then I would think that Black would have done it. Especially given that:

  • He saw Goku use it against Hit in the tournament.
  • Goku kicks him in the face while using Kaioken Blue, but maybe Zamas was just too crazy at the time to put that together.

edited 8th Nov '17 6:13:20 AM by Soble

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#68115: Nov 8th 2017 at 8:40:13 AM

hold up a minute, i just figured out the obvious way to become the strongest character ever in dragon ball

>wish for immortality

>kaio-ken to literally whatever multiplier you want

??? characters in universe need to get on this

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#68116: Nov 8th 2017 at 9:16:22 AM

They'll ruin it by saying that while their body won't die, it doesn't have the stamina to maintain that level of Kaioken. It's always the stamina.

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#68117: Nov 8th 2017 at 9:18:14 AM

Why don't the humans and Piccolo just wish for Zenkai? They always get beaten half to death all the time anyway, so they might as well get something out of it.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#68118: Nov 8th 2017 at 9:42:02 AM

What would be the point? They'd still never be able to catch up to the Saiyans.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#68119: Nov 8th 2017 at 9:54:53 AM

I mean, if you're doing that they might as well wish to become Saiyans.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#68120: Nov 8th 2017 at 10:56:16 AM

[up][up]Yeah, but it'd still be something.

[up]Fair enough.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#68121: Nov 8th 2017 at 11:01:11 AM

Or just wish to have a higher power level than Zen-o. Then there's not really anything anyone in the universe can do to you.

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felipelight Teacher from Undisclosed Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#68122: Nov 8th 2017 at 11:36:18 AM

Zeno's abilities don't appear to be based on power level. He appears to just have an inmensely powerful hakai. So why wouldn't a well timed hakai be enough to 'erase' him?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#68123: Nov 8th 2017 at 11:41:03 AM

Because he's not destroying. He's erasing from existence, those are not the same thing. And it really doesn't seem like anything can hurt him. If it could I doubt things would be as they are.

edited 8th Nov '17 11:41:33 AM by LSBK

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#68124: Nov 8th 2017 at 12:21:44 PM

We really have no proof that nothing can harm him beyond speculation. But really, he does seem to have very quick reflexes and the ability to instantly erase anything, so why would anyone bother trying?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#68125: Nov 8th 2017 at 12:26:03 PM

Although, he can't keep up with Dyspo's speed, so he's apparently not infalliable.

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