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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#67901: Nov 5th 2017 at 1:49:35 PM

You mean El Hermano.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#67902: Nov 5th 2017 at 1:49:58 PM

Honestly, the more I think about it, the more it seems obvious that Kafla being as ridiculously strong as she is, stronger than God Goku in base, is going to get some kind of explanation next episode. If it doesn't, then I'll complain, but I'm going to wait until next week before I stress out too much trying to figure it out.

As for what that explanation is, I could actually see them going with what I theorized: that Caulifla and Kale's close relationship made their Potara fusion insanely powerful, or something similar.

edited 5th Nov '17 1:52:37 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#67903: Nov 5th 2017 at 1:52:37 PM

Yamcha's going to gatecrash the tournament and manhandle Jiren before moving on to casually defeat the Grand Priest and both Zenos at the same time.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#67905: Nov 5th 2017 at 2:04:13 PM

Wolf Instinct Yamcha could probably solo Demonbane.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#67906: Nov 5th 2017 at 2:04:26 PM

Isn't Goku ridiculously tired?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#67907: Nov 5th 2017 at 2:04:51 PM

Whats scary is I can't tell if thats fake or not.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#67908: Nov 5th 2017 at 2:05:31 PM

@67900 Bullshit main character powers. Just go with it.

edited 5th Nov '17 2:05:50 PM by Eagal

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#67909: Nov 5th 2017 at 2:08:36 PM

Okay but what if Gohan Blanco and Ultra Instinct Shaggy fused? I'm pretty sure nothing could beat that.

This song needs more love.
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#67911: Nov 5th 2017 at 2:14:05 PM

Here's hoping that Goku actually beats Siren.

It's kinda up in the air. That depends on if Toriyama realized that Goku winning the tournament would be a the biggest surprise, considering his desire to avoid doing the obvious.

Then again, it's not just. He's also a self admitted contrarian, so if people want Goku to win, he might very well decide to have him lose again just because. You can never tell with that guy. I'm not sure if he's too predictable, or unpredictable.

Isn't Goku ridiculously tired?

True, but as we've seen, being tired doesn't mean much if you're still monumentally stronger than the other guy.

A half dead Piccolo was still leagues about a completely fresh Krillin, Tien, and Yamcha in the 23rd Budokai. For a more recent example, a very tired Frost was still so far ahead of Piccolo that Goku flat out said the latter stood no chance.

edited 5th Nov '17 2:17:59 PM by HandsomeRob

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#67912: Nov 5th 2017 at 2:14:17 PM

Or an Arale/Saitama fusion.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#67913: Nov 5th 2017 at 2:24:22 PM

[up][up][up]Yup.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#67914: Nov 5th 2017 at 2:27:48 PM

I'm still not sure why Goku hasn't bothered teaching the Instant Transmission to anyone else.

I know this comes up as a joke alot, but I honestly think no one bothered to ask. I'd say the only real glaring case of "Goku should have taught it to someone" was during the 3 years he trained with Gohan and Piccolo to prep for the androids.

In the case of his year with Gohan in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, that time was spent instead on trying to master the Super Saiyan transformation.

Vegeta would never ask Goku to teach him that or Kaioken, because of "Blah blah saiyan pride blag blah."

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#67915: Nov 5th 2017 at 2:30:16 PM

The funny thing is that even if he'd taught it to Gohan and Piccolo during that time, it would have been useless in the initial battles because the Androids have no Ki to sense.

Now, against imperfect Cell, when they were trying to track him...there, it would have helped a hell of a lot.

One Strip! One Strip!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#67916: Nov 5th 2017 at 2:30:54 PM

To be fair to Piccolo, Goku was wrong about him not being able to beat Frost. If Piccolo had hit Frost with his Makankosappo, Frost would've lost. He admitted as much.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#67917: Nov 5th 2017 at 2:41:21 PM

In the Anime.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#67918: Nov 5th 2017 at 2:45:18 PM

Also, anime Frost basically says he was leading Piccolo on the entire time and let himself get into that situation to poison him.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#67919: Nov 5th 2017 at 2:45:37 PM

Yeah, and we’re talking about the anime at this point; nothing from the manga matters at this point.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#67920: Nov 5th 2017 at 3:05:10 PM

[up][up]

Which is weird since Frost should have been strong enough to just waste Piccolo in seconds, exhausted or not.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#67921: Nov 5th 2017 at 3:07:56 PM

Yeah but that's not how fights in Super work.

Everyone sandbags and fights for imcomprehensible motives.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#67922: Nov 5th 2017 at 3:11:10 PM

You mean like Goku during Dragon Ball? tongue

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#67923: Nov 5th 2017 at 3:12:05 PM

No, I don't, as previously explained.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#67924: Nov 5th 2017 at 3:13:30 PM

Do you mean these lines?

Sub:

Piccolo: So I wasn't the deceiver, you were.

Frost: You didn't know how I fight. That's why you lost... Mr. Strategist.

Dub:

Piccolo: So if anyone's going to walk out of here a disgrace, looks like it'll be you Frost.

Frost: You can tell yourself that but we both know who really won. Turns out underestimating me was your big mistake... Mr. Resourceful.

In context the deceiving is referring to Frost being a cheater, not sandbagging his fight.

edited 5th Nov '17 3:15:08 PM by Moth13

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#67925: Nov 5th 2017 at 3:14:26 PM

Except Goku has sandbagged during every tournament in Dragon Ball; seriously, if a half-dead Piccolo was still stronger than Yamcha, Krillin, and Tien, then why didn't a healthy Goku knock Tien out of the ring in less than a second, even with training weights on?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!

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