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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#67701: Nov 4th 2017 at 10:18:55 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_professional_wrestling_terms

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_(professional_wrestling)

Jobber

A wrestler who routinely loses in order to build the credibility of other wrestlers; referred to as "enhancement talent".

Jobber is a professional wrestling term used to describe a wrestler who is routinely defeated by main eventers, mid-carders, or low-carders.

Wrestlers who routinely (or exclusively) lose matches are known as jobbers.

Being a jobber isn't about losing, it's the pattern of losing. Like, Vegeta might be considered a jobber since he's often used to build someone else up (though he gets a lot of wins so he doesn't fully qualify), while Hit losing against Jiren doesn't make him a jobber because it is a single loss.

edited 4th Nov '17 10:21:31 AM by Moth13

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#67702: Nov 4th 2017 at 10:49:57 AM

This is true. As a long time Wrestling Fan, I should know this, but the term has, like so many other terms, become so corrupted over time that it ends up applying in situations where it shouldn't.

Though I think that even if you win matches, you can still be job to another wrestler, even if you aren't a regular jobber. I'm almost positive of that.

One Strip! One Strip!
MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#67703: Nov 4th 2017 at 12:16:34 PM

I'm not a wrestling fan, but "jobbing" sounds a lot like what this site calls The Worf Effect.

De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#67704: Nov 4th 2017 at 12:49:57 PM

And that trope gets misused in the same way.

Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#67706: Nov 4th 2017 at 1:38:17 PM

I can't wait for Super Saiyan Cena to make his debut.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#67707: Nov 4th 2017 at 1:40:34 PM

Does that make Jiren Roman Reigns?

Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#67709: Nov 4th 2017 at 2:04:26 PM

[up][up]Well, both of them fit Base-Breaking Character, so it fits.

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#67710: Nov 4th 2017 at 2:30:22 PM

So are Toppo and Dypso, Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose?

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#67711: Nov 4th 2017 at 2:37:14 PM

If they are, then somebody has to be Kurt Angle.tongue

edited 4th Nov '17 2:37:39 PM by HandsomeRob

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TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#67712: Nov 4th 2017 at 2:38:34 PM

[up] Piccolo, because he's bald.

No beer?! But if there's no beer, then there's no beef or beans!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#67714: Nov 4th 2017 at 3:03:54 PM

It has been awhile since I watched wrestling but Goku being John Cena is accurate. tongue

"Mai waifu."
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#67715: Nov 4th 2017 at 3:07:16 PM

This conversation reminds me of John Cena showing up in a Scooby Doo film, which only reminds me of the El Grande Padre meme.

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#67716: Nov 4th 2017 at 3:14:54 PM

Aaaaaand we are back around to this convo lol.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#67717: Nov 4th 2017 at 3:15:49 PM

So who's the wrestling monster then?

edited 4th Nov '17 3:26:23 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#67718: Nov 4th 2017 at 3:16:33 PM

Actually, I'm pretty sure Jiren is Brock Lesnar. He shows up, fucks up what he needs to fuck up, and then he fucks back off to Saskatchewan.

My various fanfics.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#67719: Nov 4th 2017 at 3:34:52 PM

[up]...

But Jiren isn't the Universal Champion...yet.

I mean, it's probably only a matter of time, but still. Beyond that, your comparison is pretty accurate.

One Strip! One Strip!
agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#67720: Nov 4th 2017 at 4:00:10 PM

Well, both of them fit Base-Breaking Character, so it fits
At 1st, I was somewhat annoyed that the broken base & base breakers character were gone, but after reading things like these I'm kinda glad they're gone.

Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#67721: Nov 4th 2017 at 4:26:18 PM

But Brock lost in high school wrestling at least five times, and the cops arrested him, so those count as losses.

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#67723: Nov 4th 2017 at 5:42:26 PM

Hey today is the Toonami continuation of the Hit vs. Goku fight.

So if ya wanna hear the English version of the fight I recommend you should go at it cause Matthew Mercer is really nailing it as Hit.

Also its the episode where Goku goes Kaoiken Blue right or is that next week?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#67724: Nov 4th 2017 at 5:43:41 PM

Matt Mercer as Hit?

This I gotta see

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#67725: Nov 4th 2017 at 6:05:09 PM

Okay damn that was an awesome episode. This really is when Super grows the beard. [tup]

Matthew & Sean gave outstanding performances this battle, I was out of my seat cheering. They deserve an applause. [awesome]

Especially Sean. I still remember when Shlugo criticized Goku's English voice & said that Sean was phoning it in but Goddamn once again he proves he is absolutely putting in his all. He truly is the English voice of Goku. [awesome]

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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