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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#67676: Nov 3rd 2017 at 10:23:20 PM

[up][up][up][up]Because I really like the designs and powers of all of the new characters in the Tournament of Power and I took the time to memorize almost all of them and write down every single one so it makes me mad to see so many people dismiss so many of them as 'fodder'.

Also, I wasn't really that heated about this until my last post and this one. You asking me why I'm heated got me a lot more heated than I was previously because it got me thinking about reasons I should be heated.

[up]He's probably going to get a decent fight before going out, like Monna, just to build up the tension of U4 going out before the invisibugs are revealed.

edited 3rd Nov '17 10:26:38 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#67677: Nov 3rd 2017 at 10:26:34 PM

...what decent fight? Burter did jackshit to Goku, and got killed off by Vegeta when he was unconscious. He literally only existed to job to Goku, and even then he winds up coming back in the anime to job to Tien.

Honestly, half of the Ginyu Force ended up amounting to about as much as, oh look, half of the characters introduced in this arc.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#67678: Nov 3rd 2017 at 10:26:50 PM

[up][up]I mean, I actually do find that impressive, but you can't really expect other people to become as invested in so many characters just because you have.

Even if you don't have to call them fodder (a term I don't really like anyway) that's different from the constant, "No, this character was actually super important/strong/three-dimensional/hilarious" whenever anyone says anything even mildly unflattering about any of them.

edited 3rd Nov '17 10:32:13 PM by LSBK

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#67679: Nov 3rd 2017 at 10:31:05 PM

Hey its not like the Ginyu Force is remembered for being good fighters well except for Reccome & Ginyu.

Its the whole hammy sentai bit & if you watched the abridged the surprising amount of heart put into them & cranking the hamminess even further with the whole wrestling match bit.

edited 3rd Nov '17 10:31:38 PM by slimcoder

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#67680: Nov 3rd 2017 at 10:32:37 PM

[up][up]I don't do that about every character. You won't find me singing the praises of Majora, or Prum, or Jilcol. I think I've only ever done that for Ribrianne, who's U2's most prominent fighter with multiple episodes worth of screentime, no duh she's important, Monna, who had a pretty neat fight and is currently the strongest fighter we know of from U4, and Jimeze, which amounted to "he can teleport spam and is more important than Burter".

edited 3rd Nov '17 10:33:25 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#67681: Nov 3rd 2017 at 11:20:01 PM

Demon King Piccoro has been in 2 DBZ games, there's always hope that he can be playable again.

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#67682: Nov 3rd 2017 at 11:31:39 PM

Somebody's Jimeze are rustled.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#67684: Nov 4th 2017 at 12:03:34 AM

Need we point to literally any argument you've had with Saiga ever?

My various fanfics.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#67685: Nov 4th 2017 at 12:09:29 AM

The four or five we've had total?

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#67686: Nov 4th 2017 at 12:11:26 AM

I'm just saying, I'm not going to remember 90% of the characters introduced this arc. Jimeze included.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#67687: Nov 4th 2017 at 12:15:30 AM

I've been expecting them all to show up in future episodes whenever their universe is relevant, like how the U6 team showed up for the baseball game, so I figured it'd be better to be safe than sorry and just remember everyone.

edited 4th Nov '17 12:16:18 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#67688: Nov 4th 2017 at 12:21:44 AM

I'm actually starting to wonder what everybody else is doing while Goku is dicking around with these big hype clashes. I assume there's going to be a down period between the "beginning of the climax" and the "end of the climax" where the remainders in the various teams get focus episodes/moments and then get eliminated, but I'm just starting to feel the weirdness of how nothing happens in this storyline unless the character being focused on it involved in it.

I mean, you guys have mentioned it before as feeling off, but it never really hit me until now.

edited 4th Nov '17 12:23:03 AM by KnownUnknown

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#67689: Nov 4th 2017 at 12:27:16 AM

Big Blue was only playable in fighters that had large rosters, most of which were the extremely bloated Spike rosters. His appearance in stuff like Ginyu's specials in smaller rosters is a lot more meaningful, where the whole Ginyus combined add a nice element to the game.

I don't want him as a separate playable character in the games. Huge rosters can do whatever they want, though characters from the manga always have a big advantage and nostalgia will be a big influence. That's just the way it goes. I think there are so many characters to add from TOP that Jimeze may never see the light of day even in a bloated roster.

And in a roster with deeper character variation, I don't see him making the cut. He's just not that important, not that distinct, and not nostalgic enough.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#67690: Nov 4th 2017 at 1:02:06 AM

I'm kind of surprised at this intense dislike of Burter. I mean, admittedly, he is the Ginyu Force member who does the least given his only fight is getting schooled by Goku and immediately killed, but I'm not sure why single him out. There were plenty of villains, even outside of the Namek Arc, that were just one and done deals.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#67691: Nov 4th 2017 at 1:09:19 AM

[up] Well Pushover just randomly mentioned Burter cause he's a Frieza soldier & then had him bare the full brunt of the complaints.

I assume the same would have been said for Jeice or Guldo if either one was thought first instead.

[up][up] As shown in Fighter Z he's not playable due to the game having a very condensed focused roster. Instead yes he is an assist attack for the more important Ginyu who is the main fighter.

edited 4th Nov '17 1:17:14 AM by slimcoder

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#67692: Nov 4th 2017 at 1:11:55 AM

Yeah, that's what I mean. He doesn't get added into the smaller roster games as a fighter so I don't see much to complain about him. The video games aren't making him out to be super important.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#67694: Nov 4th 2017 at 6:49:37 AM

I can agree that, if you're going to include the Ginyu Force at all, have all of them be in one character to make up for each of their individual shallowness as fighters and lack of screentime. It's what Fighterz is doing and what Supersonic Warriors has done in the past. I only picked on Burter because, even among the lesser used Ginyu Force members, he does the least. Jeice gets to escape to warn Captain Ginyu and hang around as a character a bit longer and Guldo gets a decent fight with Gohan and Krillin. Burter just gets punked on by Goku and that's it.

[up]That reminds me: how can Caulifla tell at a glance that Goku is much older than her? It's something I've wondered from time to time.

edited 4th Nov '17 6:54:58 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#67695: Nov 4th 2017 at 7:14:34 AM

Probably because of how tall he is...and how he sounds.

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Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#67696: Nov 4th 2017 at 8:36:52 AM

And the fact that he has a kid. Or Cabba told her about it.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#67697: Nov 4th 2017 at 9:18:43 AM

Why would he tell her that?

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Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#67698: Nov 4th 2017 at 9:34:13 AM

So what's gonna be in the next episode of Dragon Jobbed Super?

edited 4th Nov '17 9:34:29 AM by Gehayadren

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#67699: Nov 4th 2017 at 9:50:12 AM

The main attraction will be the continuation of Goku vs Caulifla and Kale, but it looks like we'll be getting some more of Gohan and Piccolo vs the U6 Namekians as well.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#67700: Nov 4th 2017 at 9:58:31 AM

Heh. You could argue that every character in DBZ exists to job to Goku or job to someone else to further hype up Goku.

Even the ones who have beaten him in fights (barring Frieza, who was elevated to be his equal) are so far behind him now that they have nothing but that one time they were able to defeat a much weaker Goku.

So everyone is fodder of an equal persuasion when you think of it.

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