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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#67551: Nov 2nd 2017 at 12:13:53 PM

I dunno, that thumbnail says otherwise.

He's not being a mindless hater, if that's your concern. He's just explaining how the issues with Kale and Caulifa stem from Toriyama's Writing by the Seat of Your Pants style.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#67552: Nov 2nd 2017 at 12:15:13 PM

And I say, wait for the manga and the volume commentary to have the larger picture.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#67553: Nov 2nd 2017 at 12:15:42 PM

Huh I knew I recognized that artwork of Cauli & the image of a bald guy with a beard & moostache.

So thats where that came from.

I'm not gonna lie he draws some good Saiyan girls if you know what I'm Saiyan. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#67554: Nov 2nd 2017 at 12:16:50 PM

Now if only they'd introduce new forms for the player avatar...

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#67555: Nov 2nd 2017 at 2:40:37 PM

Kale got KTFO by Jiren and she's still going at, what, 80%? Who even healed her?

She spent like 10 episodes (15 minutes) resting so now's she's back to full stamina.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#67556: Nov 2nd 2017 at 2:42:24 PM

A video from the author of "Japan hates Tien"? I don't know if to watch it in hopes of unintentional hilarity, or just not bother.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#67557: Nov 2nd 2017 at 2:50:55 PM

He's a cool dude who seems to hate Dragon Ball and is this weird combo of elitist hick.

My various fanfics.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#67558: Nov 2nd 2017 at 2:57:01 PM

Plague of Gripes does not hate Dragon Ball. What an odd and baseless assumption to make.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#67559: Nov 2nd 2017 at 3:02:35 PM

I don't know man. That name doesn't help.

I remember watching a little of that video and then stopping so I can really comment on it.

I know that Tien being an ultra serious guy is mostly his thing, and outside of his fight against Goku and some pretty interesting and unique (but other wise useless like most techniques that aren't Super Saiyan or the Kamehameha) tricks, he doesn't have much going for him, and has become irrelevant, but honestly, he's human.

Of course he's irrelevant. The other characters became irrelevant well before V Egeta arrived as the power scale got bigger and bigger and bigger. That doesn't mean Japan hates Tien. It just means he's no different from anyone else on the show.

I mean, he's on the Tournament of Power team; that's something.

I guess maybe there's some flack since his old voice actor was replaced: I hear Voice Actors are Serious Business in Japan.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#67560: Nov 2nd 2017 at 3:05:18 PM

Well if you guys plain don't like someone on the internet, that's no skin off my back. He really doesn't want to talk about Dragon Ball anymore, so you don't need to worry about me bringing Plague up again.

edited 2nd Nov '17 3:05:27 PM by VeryMelon

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#67561: Nov 2nd 2017 at 3:08:50 PM

His video about the Saiyan girls is pretty good though.

I'm like half-way through but its a good viewing.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#67562: Nov 2nd 2017 at 3:11:21 PM

I think so as well, but it's about respecting what other people care to hear from.

XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#67563: Nov 2nd 2017 at 3:13:50 PM

[up] Personally, I like listening to Plague's mini-series on Dragon Ball (and his art). I may not agree with all his points, but he delivers them coherently enough. He also did a video about power escalation a while back, predating his recent Universe 6 video:

I was gonna annotate it for convenience, but it slipped my mind.

edited 2nd Nov '17 3:14:37 PM by XMenMutant22

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#67564: Nov 2nd 2017 at 3:21:37 PM

I mean, Tien always had a silly streak to him; remember the Volleyball Fist?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#67565: Nov 2nd 2017 at 3:37:33 PM

He's a good straight man I suppose.

It's just Piccolo came along and trumped him.

Tried watching that power levels video: some stuff I agreed with, some I didn't (Toriyama had nothing to do with adding the Z suffix), but ultimately, it's too damned long, and I don't want to sit listening to it for half an hour. He's gotta cut the time on that shit.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#67566: Nov 2nd 2017 at 3:45:06 PM

I might watch the u 6 Saiyan one, but the clickbait titles on the others are really off-putting

[up] Toriyama came up with Z on behest of Toei

edited 2nd Nov '17 3:45:50 PM by Saiga

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#67567: Nov 2nd 2017 at 3:48:12 PM

[up][up]According to this he did.

— I heard a rumor that you added the “Z” to the title because of an energy supplement that had “Z” in its name.

Toriyama: Well, that’s wrong (laughs). “Z” is the last letter in the alphabet, right? So, at the time I already really wanted to end the series, and so I made the title “Z” to say “Hey, this is the end!” I don’t remember saying a single thing about any energy supplement. You really can’t go by rumors (laughs).

Nakatsuru: Did you imagine anything else besides “Z”?

Toriyama: No, I don’t think so. Personally I thought that the title was fine the way it was, but the people on the anime staff said they wanted an image change, so I figured “well, this should be OK”.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#67568: Nov 2nd 2017 at 3:48:20 PM

I just had a thought:

What would happen if Goku were to fight Doomsday?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#67569: Nov 2nd 2017 at 3:48:26 PM

[up]X4 and [up][up]Oh. So he was asked was he?

I thought they just did that on their own. Details like that are really hard to keep track of to be honest.

edited 2nd Nov '17 3:49:06 PM by HandsomeRob

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#67570: Nov 2nd 2017 at 6:37:37 PM

That video was pretty interesting and adds an interesting perspective to all of this...vitrol.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#67571: Nov 2nd 2017 at 6:43:08 PM

[up]I like the video because it helped me better understand how the super modes ave been handled over the years. Doing so allowed me to re-contextualize why I dislike things like Super Saiyan Rage. I'm still not interested in Caulifa and Kale, but that's really just because I can't be interested in characters created to fill up tournament slots. It has nothing to do with them getting scaled up to Super's new high tier of power.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#67572: Nov 2nd 2017 at 6:50:15 PM

I only got about 8 to 13 minutes in. Like I said too long.

I mean, we always knew that increasing strength has been the primary way to win fights, but I'm irked I didn't realize it was happening as far back as the Tao fight.

I mean, every time someone comes up with a clever strategy or technique, the other guy almost always goes My Kung-Fu Is Stronger Than Yours and no sells via brute strength. It's always been that way, because when it comes down to it, as was said by Roshi, the strongest dude wins.

That dude is the one with the highest ki level.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#67573: Nov 2nd 2017 at 6:54:33 PM

Is this the Saiyagirl video or the latest one posted?

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#67574: Nov 2nd 2017 at 6:59:31 PM

I might watch the u 6 Saiyan one, but the clickbait titles on the others are really off-putting

I did wind up watching the Tien video, and clip bait title aside, he was just going over the treatment of Tien's role in his recruitment episode and actual tournament compared to Krillin and Roshi's. It definitely had that tinge of "Angry Internet Reviewer" but he wasn't actually bashing the show or Toriyama.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#67575: Nov 2nd 2017 at 7:12:06 PM

Eh. I already know I'm going to be in fundamental disagreement on that one - I don't think Kuririn or Roshi's roles were better


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