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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#67201: Oct 29th 2017 at 7:45:41 AM

Hard not to make that assumption when the show really wants you to.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#67202: Oct 29th 2017 at 7:46:06 AM

By that logic, Goku should not have had any trouble with her at Blue and yet she still tanked a Kamehameha.

Sooo, what am I supposed to take from that?

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#67203: Oct 29th 2017 at 7:51:08 AM

Seems obvious to me that Kale's "berserk" Super Saiyan form is considered much stronger than her controlled super saiyan form, considering how she used the berserk form as a powerup against the pride troopers and transformed into it in this episode when she wanted to get stronger against Goku.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#67204: Oct 29th 2017 at 7:52:14 AM

[up][up]

That the writers don't know what they're doing? What do you want me to say?

It's not like Goku was injured in that confrontation anyways. Makes the fight seem pointless in retrospect.

edited 29th Oct '17 7:54:50 AM by hardcorefakes

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#67205: Oct 29th 2017 at 7:55:58 AM

That's exactly what I've been saying lol. It makes no sense, and Caulifa and Kale don't really come off as looking strong as a result. That's all.

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#67206: Oct 29th 2017 at 7:59:55 AM

Their first mistake was wanking a form that should've been SS 2-level at best to being able to toss around a SSB-level opponent.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#67207: Oct 29th 2017 at 8:11:05 AM

There's no point to the Broly form if it isn't used for a knock-down drag-out clobbering. The standards of power for being able to do that to Goku have just changed in the past 20 years.

Anyway, I'm not going to start complaining until I see if Goku is able to do anything against Berserk Kale. Going by the preview it looks like she doesn't stay that way for long, so I'm guessing that's how Goku gets saved.

Unrelated, I found it super hilarious how we were all confused about Goku going Super Saiyan 3 in this episode when he has no stamina left, but when the episode airs he ends up dropping out of it after five seconds.

edited 29th Oct '17 8:11:52 AM by Moth13

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#67208: Oct 29th 2017 at 9:28:00 AM

According to BT 3, SSJ3 is stronger than LSSJ, so Kakarrot made the right call.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#67209: Oct 29th 2017 at 9:40:01 AM

I expect Blue to not be used in the manga until Goku and Jiren begin to fight.

Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#67210: Oct 29th 2017 at 9:43:45 AM

Should note that Kale was likely not as strong as her berserk form.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#67212: Oct 29th 2017 at 12:02:33 PM

Can Shaggy beat Jiren.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#67213: Oct 29th 2017 at 12:03:12 PM

Probably.

He's way too cool for anyone to handle.

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#67214: Oct 29th 2017 at 12:04:25 PM

Ultra Instinct Shaggy and Gohan Blanco will defeat El Grande Padre in the war to end all wars.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#67215: Oct 29th 2017 at 12:16:31 PM

Not when El Hermano and Super Son-of-a-Shepard Rolf are at full strength. tongue

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#67216: Oct 29th 2017 at 12:18:08 PM

Is that an actual clip of Shaggy being a badass?

What the hell happened to Scooby Doo while I wasn't looking? O_o

Can Shaggy beat Jiren.

Depends on how many Scooby Snacks he gets I guess.

[up]But can they defeat Ultra Instinct Super Sayian Blue 4 Kaio Ken x999 Goku?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#67217: Oct 29th 2017 at 12:20:01 PM

It's from a movie; Shaggy was hypnotized or something.

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#67218: Oct 29th 2017 at 12:42:50 PM

The gang decided to get a hypnotist to hypnotize Shaggy to become brave to get over his fears, and the trigger word is 'bad'. Apparently 'brave' translates to 'fearless and superhuman'.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#67219: Oct 29th 2017 at 12:44:59 PM

Man does Shaggy have a lot of potential.

Imagine what would happen if he got the treatment from Old Kai? tongue

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#67220: Oct 29th 2017 at 1:01:47 PM

[up][up] Hypnotism wouldn't suddenly make you a badass. No, it's just that without his cowardice holding him back, Shaggy IS this powerful.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#67221: Oct 29th 2017 at 1:08:48 PM

I mean, to be fair, there have been plenty of times in all versions of the show where Shaggy performed superhuman feats.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#67222: Oct 29th 2017 at 2:26:42 PM

I mean, don't forget that whenever he and Scooby-Doo are running away from a monster, they're keeping pace with each other. A great dane runs at about 40 MPH, so that makes Shaggy the fastest human alive, trumping even Usain Bolt's 27 MPH by a huge margin.

I'm curious as to how Shaggy became part of the whole "Gohan Blanco vs. El Grande Padre" meme in the Latin American fandom, though.

edited 29th Oct '17 2:28:25 PM by Anomalocaris20

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#67223: Oct 29th 2017 at 2:29:59 PM

Hell, there were a movie where Shaggy being a fast runner was actually a plot point (it got him on an olympic team or something like that).

And what is this Gohan Blanco vs. El Grande Padre meme?

...Or am I better off not knowing?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#67224: Oct 29th 2017 at 2:33:14 PM

There was also the movie where Scooby & Shaggy train under an ancient emerald dragon in the ways of the samurai so they can face off against a super-powered demon sword wielding samurai shogun .

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