So basically Ultra Instinct Goku is the Darkseid to Jiren's Superman?
If we get a "World of Cardboard" Speech out of Jiren it may salvage his character for me.
This song needs more love.We have seen characters use Laser eyes before.
Nappa did it in the anime (but I'm not sure if he could in the manga) and it was a move that Piccolo could do as well.
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He did it when Karrot hid in a cloud of smoke cloud.
Also does Karrot using his eyes to blast a burial hole in the ground not count?
edited 26th Oct '17 6:03:23 PM by randomness4
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That first one got me chuckling.
The second one...is both funny and terrifying.
One Strip! One Strip!Do new saiya-jins have tails?
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.There are interviews of Toriyama saying he hated drawing Goku's tail, so he just got rid of it.
After Vegeta lost his, that was the end of it.
Masako X did a video on it, and there's another one that mentions it as well I believe.
One Strip! One Strip!Kaioken + Super Saiyan doesn't work because "it puts too much strain on the body, and Super Saiyan makes the latter pointless."
Super even reinforces this, stating that Super Saiyan Blue works because it requires perfect, innate ki control.
However:
- 50 x base = good. 50 x base x 2 = better.
However, isn't that exactly what Goku and Gohan spent their time in the HTC learning how to do? Learning to eat, sleep, and breath Super Saiyan until their ki control in that form was perfectly natural.
Therefore, all this time, they never needed Super Saiyan Blue to combine Super Saiyan with Kaioken. Goku should have had perfect, innate control in Full Power/Master Super Saiyan and this would've worked just fine.
- 50 x Goku at the start of the Cell Games = Goku able to fight on par with Cell but not quite winning.
- 50 x Goku at the start of the Cell Games x 2 = Goku wrecking Cell's week right at the beginning.
:/
Different note - if Goku had tried the Kaioken (because anime!Goku does stuff like this) to try and "test the waters against Cell," could or would Cell have been able to use the Kaioken too, out of spite? Theoretically:
- he'd know it since Gero programmed the Kamehameha and Galick Gun into him.
- his body would be more durable than Goku's, and therefore be able to withstand it better.
- he copied the multi-form in the anime, so why not?
edited 28th Oct '17 7:41:55 AM by Soble
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That's actually a good point. If Jiren's not extremely careful, he could accidentally kill someone, and subsequently get erased by Zeno.
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