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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#67076: Oct 26th 2017 at 11:06:36 AM

Yep, Hermes' translation explicitly says that it's Champa who teaches the girls the new technique. So coaching from the bleachers is allowed then?

Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#67077: Oct 26th 2017 at 12:05:54 PM

Getting power ups from the Bleachers was allowed. Long as Zen-Oh does not say don't do that anything goes more or less.

Larfleeze Agent Orange Since: May, 2009
Agent Orange
#67078: Oct 26th 2017 at 12:07:06 PM

Or it’s a flashback like with Frost.

Do you know what people want the most? Something somebody else has.
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#67079: Oct 26th 2017 at 12:35:50 PM

Well how the fuck does Champa know about fusion?

BigBlackBangBro Time Stranger Since: Sep, 2016
Time Stranger
#67080: Oct 26th 2017 at 1:00:00 PM

He looked up tutorials on God Tube

edited 26th Oct '17 1:09:10 PM by BigBlackBangBro

35 year old white man.
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#67081: Oct 26th 2017 at 1:01:09 PM

Presumably Universe 6 has Metamorans.

This song needs more love.
SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#67082: Oct 26th 2017 at 1:02:18 PM

Anyhoo, so was manga chapter discussed already?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#67083: Oct 26th 2017 at 1:31:39 PM

Yeah.

The exhibition match being between the gods was cool, and the lack of animosity from Toppo towards Goku was better essentially.

They are doing a better job of making it clear that Goku has (if only accidentally) saved at least one universe with his idea of the tournament.

One Strip! One Strip!
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#67084: Oct 26th 2017 at 2:10:38 PM

I wonder how Champa figured out the fusion technique...

Also, the reason Dyspo looks like that is because his ass hurts. tongue

Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#67085: Oct 26th 2017 at 2:23:17 PM

[up]Possibly Godtube.

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#67086: Oct 26th 2017 at 2:25:51 PM

Damn was Belmoud suspicious in the chapter. Especially that smile he gave when he was on the floor.

Isn't he supposed to be a good guy?

Toppo was really nice & he definitly didn't skip leg day. tongue

edited 26th Oct '17 2:26:08 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#67087: Oct 26th 2017 at 2:28:07 PM

[up][up][up][up]I'm still not sure if that logic follows as far as the anime is concerned. Yeah he may have saved one in the long run but Universe 10 certainly got offed earlier than it would have.

edited 26th Oct '17 2:28:27 PM by LordVatek

This song needs more love.
hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#67088: Oct 26th 2017 at 2:28:25 PM

Jiren also specifically calls Hit someone he has to deal with. Saying it was stupid of hit to try and deal with him (it wasn't) is moot since Hit was someone Jiren was going to go after either way.

It was pretty stupid when it didn't have to occur in the first place. Jiren wasn't even attacking him, Hit went out of his way to attack him. All he had to do was avoid him, which is what Hit was doing the entire time anyway.

When was Jiren going to go after Hit? It's not like he gave any indication that he was targeting Hit after Goku's UI wore off. For all we know, Jiren was just going to continue his assault on Goku.

edited 26th Oct '17 2:29:45 PM by hardcorefakes

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#67089: Oct 26th 2017 at 2:30:53 PM

Jiren states after defeating Hit "The warriors I'm needed for aren't here anymore" or something. He considered Hit someone to be dealt with. That Hit just went on the offensive before he could was the smart decision, it just didn't work out.

More to the point, Hit wasn't intentionally avoiding Jiren and acting as if he could if Jiren was actively going after him is laughable.

By your logic no one should be bothering to fight anyone, because then no one can be eliminated.

edited 26th Oct '17 2:32:58 PM by LSBK

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#67090: Oct 26th 2017 at 2:38:50 PM

Except Jiren wasn't actively going after him....? At least, not literally at that moment. He was still preoccupied with Goku.

And, yes, Hit was avoiding him, up until he decided to attack him. He decided to flee with Kale and Caulifla after Jiren knocked Kale out. Pretty sure he knew to avoid him.

No, no one should bother to fight Jiren because winning isn't pertinent to knocking him off. Having the most team members left is. Just hide in the center of the ring (while suppressing your ki of course), and pray he doesn't find you.

They already had an advantage over U11, but intentionally throwing yourself at Jiren is how your team loses members.

[down] In the rubble that is currently littering the entire arena? It's big enough that individual battles can occur without ever seeing another fighter; it's sufficiently big. It then becomes a question of how well Jiren can sense ki. Saying "he's a god" isn't enough if he can't find your teammates to begin with.

edited 26th Oct '17 2:43:36 PM by hardcorefakes

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#67091: Oct 26th 2017 at 2:40:28 PM

The man is a a fucking God.

Hiding from him was never an option.

Its not even that big of a ring. Where the fuck are you gonna hide?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#67092: Oct 26th 2017 at 2:41:43 PM

You keep talking as if "avoid Jiren" is a realistic thing that can be done if Jiren decides he's going to start doing things. It isn't. Any "advantage" could very easily be wiped away, in which case it's not a real advantage.

The fact that he's not doing that now honestly seems pretty contrived.

edited 26th Oct '17 2:42:14 PM by LSBK

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#67093: Oct 26th 2017 at 2:51:49 PM

It's contrived that he didn't just speed blitz one-shot every contestant at the beginning of the tournament, but here we are. He also let 70% of his teammates get eliminated....that's bad no matter how you slice it. If Goku gets UI again, I'd be pretty worried if I were Belmod or Khai. All Goku would have to do is keep Jiren occupied with UI, and U7 could win on numbers. They wouldn't even have to knock him off.

It's Jiren's fault for "conserving his energy" and meditating instead of just winning the tournament instantly like we know he could.

edited 26th Oct '17 2:52:31 PM by hardcorefakes

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#67094: Oct 26th 2017 at 2:53:43 PM

Saying that Hit was an idiot for going up and attacking Jiren instead of hiding is not giving Hit enough credit. He didn't attack Jiren randomly, he specifically went after him right as he was defeating Goku because that's when his guard would be the lowest. It's the kind of do-anything-to-win scumbag tactic that probably would have worked on anyone except Jiren.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#67095: Oct 26th 2017 at 2:54:53 PM

"Conserving energy" seemed to be on Belmond's orders for whatever stupid reason. But now that he's been told he can stop doing that, he just decides "fuck it, you two can handle the rest." That's more contrived in my book.

How did this conversation start again, someone complaining about Hit not doing enough or something?

edited 26th Oct '17 2:55:37 PM by LSBK

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#67096: Oct 26th 2017 at 2:57:50 PM

Also complaints about the Saiyan girls being pushed despite being not as interesting apparently.

edited 26th Oct '17 3:00:15 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#67097: Oct 26th 2017 at 3:00:31 PM

[up][up]

It was me.

I only really suggested Hit avoiding Jiren to begin with because Jiren has a habit of standing around and doing nothing. He thinks Toppo and Dyspo can handle everyone else.

Hell, Goku is still in the ring, yet he deems him not worthy of fighting, so he can't be assed to actually move. If Jiren didn't eliminate Hit, I wouldn't be surprised if he went back to doing nothing.

edited 26th Oct '17 3:00:43 PM by hardcorefakes

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#67098: Oct 26th 2017 at 3:10:12 PM

Damn was Belmoud suspicious in the chapter. Especially that smile he gave when he was on the floor. Isn't he supposed to be a good guy?

I thought the same thing: it's clear he wasn't as hurt as the others (since he opted out of getting healed) and I get the feeling he wasn't even being serious and letting the other gods wear themselves out during the fight.

One Strip! One Strip!
Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#67099: Oct 26th 2017 at 3:14:32 PM

[up][up][up] I like Caulifla. I'm largely indifferent to Kale since the whole Shrinking Violet trope isn't my thing.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#67100: Oct 26th 2017 at 3:15:07 PM

Considering Jiren can stop energy attacks by staring at them really hard, I feel like him powering up to max would probably kill people in the nearby area ala Toguro.

I wonder if it's possible that Jiren is the "Broly expy" in the sense that his power is way too immense for him to reasonably hold back against people who aren't strong enough to challenge him. Maybe meditation is necessary to control his power rather than just him acting as though he shows no interest.

edited 26th Oct '17 3:16:25 PM by Hobgoblin


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