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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#67051: Oct 25th 2017 at 7:16:33 PM

Why was King Piccolo so weak anyway? Even after he was rejuvenated he was far below even an ordinary civilian Namekian. And given that he was somehow both a Namekian and a demon, you'd think that'd make him stronger...

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#67052: Oct 25th 2017 at 7:17:41 PM

Because he was technically half a Namekian. The Nameless Namekian was considerably stronger before he purged his evil half and became God.

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#67053: Oct 25th 2017 at 7:26:33 PM

It's also more than likely that he just wasn't that evil.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#67054: Oct 25th 2017 at 7:32:59 PM

Oh yeah, didn't they say the full-power Nameless Namekian probably could've beaten Frieza? That's a... pretty significant drop from just one division.

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
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#67055: Oct 25th 2017 at 7:34:35 PM

Maybe King Piccolo was just an Evil Counterpart and/or Shadow Archetype of the Nameless Namekian?

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#67056: Oct 25th 2017 at 8:16:59 PM

You know...I've always wondered, but could a Saiyan make clones/copies of themselves and perform the Super Saiyan God Ritual that way? Like, was it ever specified if the Saiyans needed to be different?

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#67057: Oct 25th 2017 at 10:05:44 PM

That said, they should retire him after this arc. I like Freeza, but I've had my fill of him. Too much of a good thing is never fine.

Well, if that good thing is better than the garbage they're trying to force now....who cares?

I'll take 20 Frieza episodes over 20 episodes dedicated to Kale/Caulifla, who aren't even half as interesting as Frieza.

Yet they're being pushed harder than Hit for some reason.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#67058: Oct 25th 2017 at 10:10:44 PM

Girl Super Saiyans.

That's all there is too it.

If there had been any attempt to have some female saiyans earlier in the franchise, Caulifa and Kale would be nothing to look at, but as it is, they are a big deal.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#67059: Oct 25th 2017 at 10:17:07 PM

Huh now theres 2 people with Jiren for their profile pics.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#67060: Oct 25th 2017 at 10:23:36 PM

Hit already had his time to be pushed.

This song needs more love.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#67061: Oct 25th 2017 at 10:26:01 PM

[up] Indeed.

He got the climax fight of the Universe 6 Arc, he beat Vegeta's ass like a conga drum, developed respect for Goku, grew as a fighter & he even got his own little mini-arc where he fights Goku for real with nothing held back.

So yeah he's gotten pushed & even then he's a good showing in this arc as his teams MVP & going down like a beast towards Jiren.

edited 25th Oct '17 10:26:23 PM by slimcoder

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#67062: Oct 26th 2017 at 3:02:01 AM

I have one complaint about the special: why did they draw Dyspo like that?

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#67063: Oct 26th 2017 at 6:27:15 AM

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Hit got less eliminations than Cabba, Kale, and Caulifla. He then proceeded to pointlessly fight Jiren in an attack that essentially amounted to nothing. Except his team "learning" that Jiren was not one to be trifled with, but they all already knew that anyway, so Hit kind of just screwed his team over for no reason.

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#67064: Oct 26th 2017 at 6:56:30 AM

What did you expect Hit to actually do? He had his moment in the spotlight and went out against one of the only people strong enough to take him out. I don't understand what your issue is.

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#67065: Oct 26th 2017 at 7:11:49 AM

His fight with Jiren was pretty awesome, too. I was honestly expecting him to get taken out by Toppo.

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#67066: Oct 26th 2017 at 7:30:19 AM

Spoilers for 114: looks like Champa is actually the one who teaches them fusion.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#67067: Oct 26th 2017 at 8:10:11 AM

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That it was pointless in the end? Who cares how flashy and epic it was? He still basically achieved nothing.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#67068: Oct 26th 2017 at 8:22:49 AM

He was in a tournament, and lost. That's kind of how tournaments work, characters lose. I'm still wondering what you were expecting? Did you think he was gonna win?

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
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#67069: Oct 26th 2017 at 8:47:55 AM

Well, I was thinking he was gonna have a rematch but it was just speculation. Still, I got to give Hit this he went down like a champ even if he was used to establish the other characters.

"Mai waifu."
hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#67070: Oct 26th 2017 at 9:03:34 AM

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Well, this is more of an endurance battle rather than a standard tournament. So he had no real obligation to fight Jiren, but he did so anyway of his own volition.

He had the options of not fighting Jiren...and not getting knocked off the stage?

edited 26th Oct '17 10:03:21 AM by hardcorefakes

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#67071: Oct 26th 2017 at 9:08:34 AM

Well, his plan to disable Jiren for the whole tournament would've worked if Jiren's power level wasn't a giant middle finger to the laws of physics. Against literally any other opponent in the arena, Hit would've won that.

edited 26th Oct '17 9:09:01 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
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#67072: Oct 26th 2017 at 9:18:52 AM

That is kind of true for most of Dragon Ball, sadly. Jiren is strong that not even time itself could stop him. DIO would have a hard time with this guy.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#67073: Oct 26th 2017 at 10:45:41 AM

Saying he didn't have to fight Jiren is pointless because he more than likely would have to eventually.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#67074: Oct 26th 2017 at 10:50:43 AM

Jiren also specifically calls Hit someone he has to deal with. Saying it was stupid of hit to try and deal with him (it wasn't) is moot since Hit was someone Jiren was going to go after either way.

But considering the nature of this tournament, saying it's pointless to try and deal with your sides biggest obstacle to surviving makes no sense.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#67075: Oct 26th 2017 at 11:02:35 AM

Hit had an honest chance at winning so it wasn't a pointless decision.

He could have won.

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