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TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#66976: Oct 25th 2017 at 10:04:27 AM

I hope we get to see Freeza vs. Kale at some point, for a couple reasons:

  • I want someone to wipe that smirk of Freeza's face. Thus far, he's destroyed every opponent he's encountered throughout the entire tournament. Napapa? Stomped. Roselle? Stomped. Murichim? Stomped. Jimizu? Stomped. Cabba? Stomped. Somebody needs to knock him down a peg.
  • It'd be pretty poetic to see Freeza facing off against a Super Saiyan once more.

edited 25th Oct '17 10:04:41 AM by TyeDyeWildebeest

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#66977: Oct 25th 2017 at 10:06:13 AM

I think "poetic" has run its course. Honestly, at this point I'm hoping Frieza is the one to eliminate everyone from Universe 6.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#66978: Oct 25th 2017 at 10:07:23 AM

Freeza making a point mentioning how he's going to hunt down the U6 sayians with prejudice seems like a set up for a total reversal, where Freeza bites more than he can chew.

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#66979: Oct 25th 2017 at 10:07:59 AM

I think "poetic" has run its course.

Hmm? What do you mean?

And I think it's too late for that, since we've already had Gohan eliminate Botamo, Jiren eliminate Hit, and Vegeta eliminate Magetta and Dr. Rota.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#66980: Oct 25th 2017 at 10:10:13 AM

I just had a thought...Goku and Frieza vs. Caulifa and Kale?

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#66981: Oct 25th 2017 at 10:12:39 AM

I think Kafla might do it.

This song needs more love.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#66982: Oct 25th 2017 at 10:23:52 AM

I meant the remaning ones obviously.

And they've done "Frieza underestimates Saiyans and paid for it" enough that any ironic appeal has worn off.

Just let him get rid of the charactets who never really had a chance anyway.

edited 25th Oct '17 10:24:10 AM by LSBK

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#66983: Oct 25th 2017 at 10:30:23 AM

Nah, I predict that Caulifa and Kale will survive till the end of the tournament, but Freeza will not.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#66984: Oct 25th 2017 at 10:40:38 AM

Personally, I'm hoping that Freeza goes out fighting a good guy. I want the episode where he's eliminated to be one where he's the villain who you root against. Kafla could work, Jiren or Toppo as well, though I wanna see Ribrianne get a win under her belt, especially if, as the calendar indicated, she's set to be one of the major players in the end-game of the Tournament Of Power.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#66985: Oct 25th 2017 at 10:49:02 AM

I actually really want Frieza to take down Kafla. I don't know when or how he's going to go out, but him doing that would be great, and I'd probably be good with whatever else afterwards.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#66986: Oct 25th 2017 at 11:11:47 AM

Freeza's in an interesting spot: he's a jackass of epic proportions so you wanna see him get some comeuppance. But he's also one of the best chances Universe 7 has for survival, so him being taken out would be a large blow.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#66987: Oct 25th 2017 at 11:23:05 AM

Frieza's presence here is interesting.

Yamcha started out as a bandit attacking Goku. Tenshinhan was an enemy from the rival school. Piccolo died a villain but his reincarnation became the friendly Piccolo we all know and love. Vegeta went through the longest redemption arc, not becoming a truly heroic character until the end of the Buu saga. Pretty much all the big threats (and some small ones) eventually became Goku's allies in the long run, which is an interesting theme for the franchise to run with. Frieza was the first major threat to be irredeemably evil and die without even the slightest semblance of a good person in there, unless you collectively count the Red Ribbon Army.

I'm not expecting them to turn Frieza into a good guy nor would I want that, and his cooperation here is just Pragmatic Villainy, but I would like to see him ultimately go out sincerely fighting for Universe 7 rather than do some kind of typical backstabbing. If only so we're actually rooting for him to win for once.

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#66988: Oct 25th 2017 at 11:30:53 AM

Caulifla or Kale taking out Frieza would be forced as hell.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#66989: Oct 25th 2017 at 11:38:50 AM

Individually maybe... fusion might fix that

But part of me would love to see Freeza triumph over a Saiyan just for the irony.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#66990: Oct 25th 2017 at 11:41:34 AM

[up] Well he did triumph over Gohan before.

But yeah let Frieza keep kicking ass. Dudes fucking awesome at it.

edited 25th Oct '17 11:41:57 AM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#66991: Oct 25th 2017 at 11:50:33 AM

He just triumphed over Cabba, though it wasn't much of a fight.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#66992: Oct 25th 2017 at 12:00:26 PM

As has been made very clear, Cabba doesn't matter. It can be argued that Kale and Caulifla shouldn't really matter either but, that's a different discussion we've had a billion times before.

edited 25th Oct '17 12:01:23 PM by LSBK

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#66993: Oct 25th 2017 at 12:08:13 PM

They matter more than Cabba at least and are the ones everyone wants to see. Poor Cabba, I actualy do like him, his dorkiness is endearing in a way.

But yea, Freeza "beating" Gohan was a ruse, and beating Cabba doesn't really mean much. Beating Kale and Caulifa, especially if they're the last of Universe 6 standing, would be much more significant.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#66994: Oct 25th 2017 at 12:11:39 PM

Also, anyone else think them framing his as the villain against Cabba was weird?

"Oh, he's challenging him while he's exhausted!...and, what you think opponents should give him time to rest?" He challenged him up front, didn't really torture him, and made it quick. What more were you expecting?

Related, the framing of a lot of these characters as needlessly sadistic doesn't really help with the sympathy factor.

edited 25th Oct '17 12:12:08 PM by LSBK

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#66995: Oct 25th 2017 at 12:16:10 PM

I want Freeza to just be gone. Bringing him back was a mistake.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#66996: Oct 25th 2017 at 12:17:23 PM

Nah, didn't REALLY torture him. Just shot him a few times with death beams before blasting him out. Freeza's tortured other fighters SO much worse than Cabba that he should feel lucky to be alive right now!

On a sidenote: I was surprised to learn that Jimeze is still alive, considering how they made a point that Freeza leaving him mortally wounded and him dying after being eliminated wouldn't disqualify Freeza.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#66997: Oct 25th 2017 at 12:18:34 PM

I'm just enjoying the irony of Frieza being a better teammate than Vegeta.

This song needs more love.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#66998: Oct 25th 2017 at 12:19:45 PM

Frieza is a true boss.

Like they say, ya can't beat the classics. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#66999: Oct 25th 2017 at 12:20:53 PM

[up][up][up]Well, yeah. Cabba is still conscious and in no danger of dying (from Frieza), as for Frieza, and this tournament goes, that's great.

edited 25th Oct '17 12:21:45 PM by LSBK

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#67000: Oct 25th 2017 at 12:22:20 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] You say that, but he's had some of the best moments of this arc.

I don't agree with bringing him back, but I'm glad they're making the most of it.

edited 25th Oct '17 12:22:52 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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