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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#66776: Oct 23rd 2017 at 4:01:26 PM

Toppo is also the strongest non-Jiren opponent, from what we can reasonably gather (gotta wait and see manga!Kale, Toei has that tendency to hype Broly).

So yeah, I have my hopes for his fight against Vegeta. Leave Ribrienne to the Androids.

And I kinda want to see Dyspo vs. Freeza. Freeza is entertaining when he fights people you have no sympathy for, after all.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#66779: Oct 23rd 2017 at 4:44:31 PM

I still think the characters seen on that calendar will the the key players in the tournament's endgame. Hit's conspicuous absence made me more convinced of this.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#66780: Oct 23rd 2017 at 4:57:59 PM

I can't decide if my favorite part of that chart is El Grande Padre revealing himself to be Goten Black or Complete Gohan White somehow being both SSSS tier and SSSSS tier with no changes whatsoever..

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#66781: Oct 23rd 2017 at 5:16:31 PM

So, odds of a universe that isn't 7 winning the thing?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#66782: Oct 23rd 2017 at 5:57:52 PM

100%

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#66783: Oct 23rd 2017 at 6:29:35 PM

That depends on how much we're expecting it.

On the one hand, we all know the score with Toriyama enough that Universe 7 losing is on the table.

On the other hand, we know that Zen-O is damned trigger happy. He will pull that trigger, and unless Toriyama has an out (which would be the winner wishing the lost universes back using the Super Dragonballs), it would be odd to go in that direction.

That being said, using the Super balls to undo the destruction of the other universes is also something we're all expecting, and if Toriyama is as on the ball as we'd expect he might chose to subvert that as well.

Honestly, I'm not gonna sweat how things are gonna go. Rather, I intend to just enjoy the show.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#66784: Oct 23rd 2017 at 7:24:39 PM

I still don't think this tournament is just going to end naturally. Like, "Okay, time's up/all other teams are eliminated, good game, everybody who still exists go home."

SOMETHING unexpected is going to happen that derails the tournament, whether it's some kind of battle against the gods, or some kind of intrusion by an unexpected fighter, or something.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#66785: Oct 23rd 2017 at 7:35:21 PM

Something "Unexpected" interrupting a tournament?

Wouldn't that be completely expected?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#66786: Oct 23rd 2017 at 7:36:37 PM

Well, as far as we know the most powerful beings in the multiverse, including the most powerful, are here so that would be surprising indeed.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#66787: Oct 23rd 2017 at 7:41:03 PM

Well, a tournament in Dragonball was only interrupted once (the 25th Budokai) and even that one just continued on with a winner. Dragon ball is one of the few series that plays the Tournament arc straight (as in no evil plan behind it or anything).

It would be interesting to see it not get finished, since that is something new for a Toriyama tournament.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#66788: Oct 23rd 2017 at 8:05:18 PM

Ya know this is rather sweet.

http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2900698

A nice piece of Hit giving Cabba a rub on the head for a job well done. Though it also reminds ya that U6 is screwed without their MVP.

edited 23rd Oct '17 8:05:36 PM by slimcoder

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Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#66789: Oct 23rd 2017 at 8:40:58 PM

The joys of the Lat AM DB fans. Their absurd fan theories will keep us and 4chan entertained for years.

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#66790: Oct 23rd 2017 at 9:20:35 PM

Why do we need Kale and Caulifla to learn fusion from a native source when Goku can very well just teach it to them?

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#66791: Oct 23rd 2017 at 9:21:48 PM

Think anything will come from Vegeta vs. Toppo?

I'm still of the belief that Vegeta's elimination will come as the result of Unfriendly Fire from Freeza. Freeza eliminates both Vegeta and Toppo. Freeza would have the motive as well since Vegeta is the current front-runner in terms of eliminations.

So who does Dypso fight?

Gohan would make the most sense at this point. Dypso is already established as being not on par with SSG Goku so, by extension, he'd be out of his league attempting to fight Vegeta and Freeza as well. And given Gohan's struggles with the Yardrat using Instant Transmission, I'd say that conquering Dypso's super speed would be a nice follow up for him.

edited 23rd Oct '17 9:24:22 PM by Lionheart0

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#66792: Oct 23rd 2017 at 9:27:47 PM

[up][up]We don't necessarily. Pretty much everywhere else there were people immediately jumping to the conclusion that Goku's teaching them fusion and getting REALLY angry at him. The two most probable theories I've seen in the "Goku teaches them fusion" camp are: "Goku teaches them fusion after they team up so Kafla can take down the U3 megazord and save Goku from it" or "Goku teches them fusion so that it puts himself in a life-or-death situation fighting them to force his body into Ultra Instinct again".

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#66793: Oct 23rd 2017 at 9:35:00 PM

Also wondering what, if any significance exempting four of the universes will have later. Or if it was just done because the writers thought "Okay, 120 competitors would be a bit too much."

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#66794: Oct 23rd 2017 at 9:38:06 PM

[up] Probably a combination of wanting to avoiding having too many characters while also not literally using just the same fighters from the previous Tournament arc.

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#66795: Oct 23rd 2017 at 9:39:50 PM

I suspect it's to give them room to have another giant character dump at some point in the future using characters from the four exempt universes.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#66796: Oct 23rd 2017 at 10:05:46 PM

I wonder if any of the four universes have warriors stronger than Jiren.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#66797: Oct 23rd 2017 at 10:08:04 PM

By the unbreakable law of shonen escalation: Yes, yes they do.

This is not something to even consider for a nanosecond. They do have someone stronger than Jiren.

edited 23rd Oct '17 10:08:54 PM by slimcoder

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#66798: Oct 23rd 2017 at 10:09:51 PM

B-But subverting expectations!

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#66799: Oct 23rd 2017 at 10:11:10 PM

So Ribrianne is an ass in wanting to become a goddess of love instead of wishing other universes back, Frieza is Frieza for wanting to control the gods and Vegeta is being good guy Vegeta for promising to revive Universe 6. I don't know why Vegeta of all people is the first U7 character to voice his desire to restore life, and Goku to not have any wish. I thought after two mass genocides Goku might be taking that aspect more seriously

Me, I would use the Super Dragonballs to wish the Zen'o to a place they cannot harm others-the void that was once Future Trunks' timeline. If a human time machine can travel there, I feel Super Shenron could transport them. Not like they're being harmed, it's more a time-out. That way there's no Zen'o to undo a wish a year later to revive the universes

edited 23rd Oct '17 10:11:57 PM by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#66800: Oct 23rd 2017 at 10:13:26 PM

Vegeta didn't even specify all of Universe 6. He cares about the Saiyans, lumping the others might be jumping to conclusions.


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