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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#66626: Oct 22nd 2017 at 9:55:31 AM

I find it kind of hilarious that Universe 3, of all people, still has the most fighters next to Universe 7.

They've received exactly zero focus or character development yet they're doing second-best in terms of remaining fighters.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#66627: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:05:42 AM

Random fodder that should've been expected...

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#66628: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:09:03 AM

[up] Suffice to say you are right about that, most of the fighters are just fodder for the Saiyans or more specifically Goku and Vegeta.

"Mai waifu."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#66629: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:11:34 AM

You know, Pushover, it's fine if you like all the episodes or the characters, but that doesn't mean you have to insist they're all important or strong.

Frankly, it's kind of weird that before you were going on about how this tournament is primarily about showing off special tricks and skills over raw power, but immediately start talking about how a character who has only had one important appearance and then got subsequently eliminated "isn't fodder because she's one of the stronger one on Universe 4's side" as if that actually means anything.

Seriously, there's nothing wrong with liking minor characters while acknowledging that they are minor and very unlikely to ever actually be important.

edited 22nd Oct '17 10:12:47 AM by LSBK

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#66630: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:18:51 AM

It's extremely hard to gauge anyone's strength when half of these characters have no notable feats to speak of.

They're not "fodder" per se, but it's really difficult to say they're strong too. Like strong in relative to what?

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#66631: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:28:18 AM

At least he has trust in Caulifla and Kale to hold the line. Those two are U6 only hope.

I feel bad for the U6 Namekians. They're still in the tournament but nobody has any faith in them. [lol]

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#66632: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:30:40 AM

Well, that's because they aren't Saiyans.

Lets be honest, Namekians have never really done anything in DB outside of creating the two most well known reset buttons, and they cribbed that idea from someone else too.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#66633: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:32:08 AM

I accociate being fodder with being weak fighters who are eliminated without much fanfare, like a lot of the people who were taken out in the early episodes of the tournement. Monna wouldn't count since she was reasonably powerful (yeah it's Cabba, but still) and got to be the antagonist for most of an episode.

edited 22nd Oct '17 10:33:22 AM by Moth13

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#66634: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:32:38 AM

[up][up][up]They don't matter besides probably merging together only to serve to be impressive for someone else to knock them out/to merge with Piccolo so that it looks better/more depressing when someone knocks him out.

Speaking of which, what do you think the chances of Piccolo getting knocked out dramatically defending Gohan are? About 98 or 99%?

edited 22nd Oct '17 10:33:06 AM by LSBK

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#66635: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:37:06 AM

The Namekian don't even have names. How can they possibly matter?

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#66636: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:38:12 AM

"Caulifa, Kale, you're Universe 6 only hope!"

"What about Namekians?"

"What about Namekians?"

[up][up]99,99%

edited 22nd Oct '17 10:38:32 AM by Shlugo_the_great

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#66637: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:39:41 AM

Why are we treating Cabba like a weakling when he's done reasonably well for himself? He got rid of three people, but that's more than most people in this tournament.

It just feels weird to treat him like such a weakling just because he's behind Caulifa and Kale.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#66638: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:46:34 AM

Probably because with them it's about showing how awesome they are, while he's mostly being framed as the underdog. Not really fair, but it does seem like they're less interested in making him look good, and more going for an emotional payoff.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#66639: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:49:21 AM

[up][up] I think it's a matter of him immediately getting surpassed by Caulifla and Kale as soon as they learned to transform into Super Saiyans. tongue

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#66640: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:57:12 AM

[up][up] & [up] It also doesn't help that Kale and Caulifa greatly overshadow Cabba in terms of importance.

"Mai waifu."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#66641: Oct 22nd 2017 at 10:58:28 AM

[up][up]That doesn't mean he's weak tho :V

I mean, I get that being funny but I never understood why that made him a loser compared to them. Especially since all three of them are behind Goku, Vegeta and arguably Gohan.

[up] Importance of what?

edited 22nd Oct '17 10:59:28 AM by BlackYakuzu94

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#66642: Oct 22nd 2017 at 11:00:11 AM

I mean, that's more of a consequence of what we're talking about than something inevitable. They want to make Caulifla and Kale look cool so they stay in longer; they want to bank on the relationship between Vegeta and Cabba so he get batted around, and pep talks, and eliminated while he's exhausted against someone he never would have been able to beat anyway.

Caulifla and Kale are make supposed to make you go "Wow!" while Kabba makes you go "Awww".

edited 22nd Oct '17 11:01:26 AM by LSBK

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#66643: Oct 22nd 2017 at 11:13:14 AM

And that I get that, but it falls apart for me because even the story treats him as being inferior to them...but they have about the same amount eliminations though?

It's not like he fought someone they defeated with ease, so acting like he's wholly inferior just feels off to me.

I get that the Saiyan girls are who they want to show off, but the story suddenly acting like Cabba is so far behind them just feels jarring. At worst, he's only slightly behind.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#66644: Oct 22nd 2017 at 11:17:03 AM

This is Dragonball. Being slightly behind is pretty much being totally inferior, because once you are behind, you stay that way barring a few lucky moments.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#66645: Oct 22nd 2017 at 11:29:26 AM

Cabba is old and busted. The girls are the new hotness.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#66646: Oct 22nd 2017 at 11:31:49 AM

Not all eliminations give the same cred. Before Monna, the two people he took out had no screentime and didn't put up even a little bit of a fight, so it's not the best way to make him look good.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#66647: Oct 22nd 2017 at 11:32:42 AM

Sometimes it's hilarious how cynical the Shonen fanbase can be when it comes to Power Levels.

People treat Hit like he's fodder simply because he lost to Jiren lol.

[up] The people the girls eliminated weren't notable either tho...

edited 22nd Oct '17 11:36:27 AM by BlackYakuzu94

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#66648: Oct 22nd 2017 at 11:36:32 AM

So is Vegeta only planning on bringing back Planet Sadala and the Saiyans or all of Universe 6?

It was a bit unclear. I guess it's good for some one to bring doing something like that with Super Dragon Balls up, but still no answer to "why won't Zeno just erase everything again". Maybe they just figure since they were promised the wish he'll leave the universes alone or whatever?

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#66649: Oct 22nd 2017 at 11:43:29 AM

That might be addressed later on.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#66650: Oct 22nd 2017 at 11:46:07 AM

Compiled a large album of pics and promos for the latest Heroes update.

LOTS of characters this time:

  • Ultra Instinct Omen Goku
  • Bergamo
  • Dyspo
  • Marcarita
  • Super Saiyan 4 Time Patrol Goku
  • Final Form Mira
  • Time Breaker Paragus
  • Broken Mask Time Breaker King Vegeta
  • FPSSJ4DDBTB Broly (plus a Broken Mask version too)
  • Isekai Yamcha
  • Society Survival Cards
  • Ultimate Spirit Bomb Cards
  • Boss Campaign Cards
  • 3 secret cards, one of them being Super Saiyan 4 Bardock

Oh, btw, the Universe 6 Namekians are named Pirina and Saonel.


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