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theweirdKiddokun What a Wonderful World! from Last Place in the Race Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#6626: Jun 6th 2014 at 9:33:03 AM

Or they just arrive when all the balls gathers.

Or they didn't know what exactly Goku's/Dende's wishes were.

Also knowing about a situation doesn't mean you know all about it.

edited 6th Jun '14 9:36:23 AM by theweirdKiddokun

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FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#6627: Jun 6th 2014 at 9:39:32 AM

[up] Nope.

They knew extacly what was going on and were already prepared.

Either the Namekians had become Dangerously Genre-Savvy after the Frieza Arc or it's a Plot Hole.

edited 6th Jun '14 9:39:46 AM by FireShadow

theweirdKiddokun What a Wonderful World! from Last Place in the Race Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#6628: Jun 6th 2014 at 9:51:19 AM

...That cleared up nothing. It told nothing about what the Namekians knew or didn't except they knew where Dende and the others would appear. This is not really a plothole and more of we lack information.

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FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#6629: Jun 6th 2014 at 10:01:02 AM

Grand Elder Moori: "Let's hurry. I know all about the situation."

Cut to all the Namekians holding all of the Dragon Balls, which indicate they also knew what was going on as well, or had at least been informed by Moori prior to Kibito Kai, Grand Elder Kai and Dende arriving on Namek.

What more does there need to be said?

edited 6th Jun '14 1:31:44 PM by FireShadow

theweirdKiddokun What a Wonderful World! from Last Place in the Race Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#6630: Jun 6th 2014 at 10:12:55 AM

Because that only tells us they know that Goku and the others needed the dragon balls.

Plus when someone says "I know about the situation," it can be from I know Goku is fighting a strong fighter and needed the dragon balls to I know exactly what is going on and know what you need to do (or in this case what to wish for). The only reason he said that was so Toriyama could skip a recap.

edited 6th Jun '14 10:13:31 AM by theweirdKiddokun

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#6631: Jun 6th 2014 at 3:03:18 PM

One of my favorite Vegeta moments.

what do you mean I didn't win, I ate more wet t-shirts than anyone else
FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#6632: Jun 6th 2014 at 3:15:43 PM

Okay, it is implied that other Namekians can summon Porunga and have their wishes granted Regardless, it's confusing like hell. I wish Toriyama would have been more specific about the issue because every time they summon Porunga its only Dende who speaks to Porunga to make him grant the wishes even though the Namekians also know what's going on.

P.S. - Sorry for the late response went out to Pizza Hut and watched 22 Jump Street, which was fucking hilarious! [lol] (Ice Cube stole the show)

[up] Jeice was reincarnated to get revenge against Vegeta for what happened on Namek

edited 6th Jun '14 4:30:53 PM by FireShadow

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#6633: Jun 6th 2014 at 4:00:52 PM

[up][up] Yet more inconsistency in the destructive powers of DB characters. That light tap froM Vegeta should have decapitated the man and sent both his severed head and lifeless corpse to other continents.

edited 6th Jun '14 4:01:11 PM by Nikkolas

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#6634: Jun 6th 2014 at 4:17:03 PM

[up]

I think he has more control than that.

Plus Rule of Funny. Remember that one time Krillin hurt Super Saiyan Goku with a rock?

Same principle, only to offence instead of defence.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#6635: Jun 6th 2014 at 4:26:54 PM

[up][up] Did you miss that thing in the entire series where they can control their power to any level?

@Fire Shadow Actually, the Namekians don't fully know what's going on in the manga at least. They just felt shit going down on Earth and decided to gather the Dragon Balls in case they were needed.

FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#6636: Jun 6th 2014 at 4:36:52 PM

[up] But that brings upon the question of why would Moori go out of his way and state he fully understands what the whole scenario is? I mean how the hell would they even know that shit was going down on Earth in the first place? Who the hell tipped them off? They're planet was in another freakin galaxy. I'm sorry, but that's a Plot Hole. That or the Namekians are absurdly self aware of how cheap death is and how Earth always seems to be doomed in some way in Dragon Ball that they now that some day the Z Fighter are gonna need to use their Dragon Ball to wish some people back, so they gathered them in one location just to same them time and effort and summon Porunge quicker and more convenient.

"Let's hurry. I know all about the situation."

His words, not mine.

edited 6th Jun '14 5:02:33 PM by FireShadow

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#6637: Jun 6th 2014 at 4:50:18 PM

Where are you getting that line from, for starters?

Oh, wait, I see it now. Re-read my volume of the whole scene and I can't see how you're having any trouble with this. They knew the situation because they can sense ki, but they didn't know what the wishes were because Vegeta hadn't told anyone what the wishes were.

edited 6th Jun '14 4:55:17 PM by Saiga

theweirdKiddokun What a Wonderful World! from Last Place in the Race Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#6638: Jun 6th 2014 at 4:59:24 PM

[up][up]You are taking that line way too literally.

Keep in mind that Gohan, Goku, and the others on Supreme Kai's planet could feel Buu's power from there. Moori doesn't even have to know the whole situation to feel a dark power that way. All he needs to know that their is a new large dark power in the universe and that the Z fighters are fighting. You are jumping to conclusions with no large bases of information.

But the main reason why he said that was because Toriyama didn't want to send a few panels recaping what is happening/searching and gathering of the dragon balls.

edited 6th Jun '14 5:00:04 PM by theweirdKiddokun

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FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#6639: Jun 6th 2014 at 5:21:50 PM

Still sounds a bit too convenient but... whatever. tongue

If it means anything, at least the Namekians were smart enough to be prepared for the worst... unlike the Kais, who come up with the worst strategies and backup plans possible.

edited 6th Jun '14 5:28:50 PM by FireShadow

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#6640: Jun 6th 2014 at 5:23:55 PM

Yeah. When you think about it, Moori knew the most important parts:

New Big Bad is wrecking shit, and when that happens, Dragon balls are usually required. So he said to himself:

Aright! let's gather this shit up! I think somebody is probably dead!

Done and done.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#6642: Jun 6th 2014 at 5:54:10 PM

That's more basic logic than it is understanding the formula of the show. Earth exploded.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#6643: Jun 6th 2014 at 6:19:22 PM

Ignore.

edited 6th Jun '14 6:19:35 PM by Anomalocaris20

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FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#6644: Jun 6th 2014 at 6:32:46 PM

[up][up] Yeah but even prior to that, I'm sure the Namekians must have felt (Mecha) Frieza and Kind Cold's ki when they were either heading to Earth or already on it, probably thought, "Shit, not this again. Gather up the Dragon Ball's folks..."

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#6645: Jun 6th 2014 at 6:52:51 PM

Not quite.

It likely took them a while to make the connection. I think it really clicked with Cell, since that was when Goku came all the way to their planet to get a new Guardian.

After that, when Buu started punching the entire universe in it's collective face, they realized that their were behind on their Dragonball collecting and got shit done.

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theweirdKiddokun What a Wonderful World! from Last Place in the Race Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#6646: Jun 6th 2014 at 7:01:10 PM

I don't think they could of felt Freiza, but they definitely said they could feel Cell's power.

edited 6th Jun '14 7:02:20 PM by theweirdKiddokun

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FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#6647: Jun 6th 2014 at 7:44:08 PM

Well the Z Fighters did sense an immense ki similar to that of Frieza's way before he arrived on Earth, so the Namekians must have picked on traces of that ki on some occasion when Frieza spaceship was travelling through the galaxy before it got to Earth. Frieza is just way to powerful of a force not to appear on their radar. But Cell... oh boy... I wouldn't have been surprised if they summoned Porunga before the Cell Games began and told Porunga, "Just wait a few minutes, shit is about to go down..."

edited 6th Jun '14 7:59:54 PM by FireShadow

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#6649: Jun 7th 2014 at 3:09:04 PM

Rumors about DBH came out saying that Dr. Uiro, Naturon Shenron, SSJ-3 Majin Vegeta, SSJ-3 Bardock and an unknown character will be coming to the game soon.

Also, a 30 minute presentation for Dragonball New Project (the new PS 4 game) will be held at E3 in a few days.

edited 7th Jun '14 3:09:34 PM by Rinsankajugin

FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#6650: Jun 7th 2014 at 3:39:37 PM

[up] Please give us a source or link. I want credibility.


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