SS 4 was great and it looked awesome.
The idea behind the Evil Shenrons was good (actual consequences for abusing the Dragonballs) even if the execution was mostly bad (only Omega and Nuova were any good).
Baby was a great villain in theory because it actually dealt with the fact that Saiyans were mostly asshole monsters who committed genocide on the regular and not some tragic noble race like they were treated after the Freeza Saga.
Hell the idea of Trunks, Goten, and Pan going on a galactic adventure had promise.
But that’s GT in a nutshell: Great ideas and god awful execution.
Do you know what people want the most? Something somebody else has.The voices have changed a lot over time. They were pretty rough in the beginning, and super inconsistent.
The new voices still feel pretty inconsistent. Like, doing a lot of Z / Kai comparisons and some scenes are still better in Z.
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Oh. Well, originally the dub was not trying to be accurate to the Japanese version so they made no effort to imitate Nozawa. Even now, they're still trying to be consistent with the old dub.
edited 17th Oct '17 3:51:29 PM by Saiga
In general I don't think dubs should set out and try and mimic the Japanese version, they should try and fit the voice to the character, which may not be the same thing.
In this case, specifically, I'd say that's even more important, because Goku's Japanese voice is terrible and I don't even think it fits with the purported reason it is the way it is (because Goku is a child at heart or whatever, the voice doesn't even come off as childish to me).
edited 17th Oct '17 3:51:04 PM by LSBK
Ah, so at the beginning thy didn't care enough to find someone with a fitting voice for Goku and now they are unwilling to change. I see, thanks.
Adult Goku would just sound wrong in English with a Nozawa-like voice.
edited 17th Oct '17 3:58:50 PM by LordVatek
This song needs more love.

GT gave us NNNNNNEGATIVE ENERGY .
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!