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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#66226: Oct 14th 2017 at 7:33:28 PM

I find it interesting that Quitela still seems to think the Invisibugs can clinch the win for him. Though that may just be Smug Snakery I suppose.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#66227: Oct 14th 2017 at 7:36:18 PM

Unless this arc is going for a Shocking Swerve, pretty sure those invisible fighters aren't going to do much to Jiren lol.

But yea, the fight was pretty good. Hit has a very unique moveset, so it makes all fights with him pretty entertaining. And at the very least, Jiren acknowledged he had to actually sorta try to defeat him.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#66228: Oct 14th 2017 at 7:45:57 PM

They don't have to do anything to Jiren. If no one can find them, they can't get eliminated so Quitela is probably just waiting for Goku to recover and for he and Jiren to beat each other up.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#66229: Oct 14th 2017 at 7:55:58 PM

And, yeah, Jiren still not really having much a personality. I said that Jiren beating Hit isn't automatically The Worf Effect, and I still think that, but I could have done without all the "Jiren is so powerful even TIME can't stop him!" We get it, he's strong.

Eh, the manga already did that with Hit being unable to affect beings vastly stronger than him with Time Skip. I'm fine with Jiren no selling it for the same reason.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#66230: Oct 14th 2017 at 7:59:37 PM

Yeah there's no way Frost is U6's second strongest. He had a way worse showing against Super Saiyan Vegeta than Magetta did, and by his own admission his power has actually decreased since that Universe 6 tournament. His victories in the Tournament of Power were pretty much all sneaky tactics.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#66231: Oct 14th 2017 at 8:00:36 PM

He was probably just lying about his power decreasing, Hit said he'd improved from being on the run.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#66232: Oct 14th 2017 at 8:02:00 PM

I thought he was supposed to be lying about having gotten weaker, but either way it doesn't really matter. Kale is probably their second strongest. Actually, in raw power she's probably by far their strongest, but I imagine that Hit could subdue her fairly easily.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#66233: Oct 14th 2017 at 8:02:22 PM

He also admitted to Vegeta seeing through his lies, he did much better against SS1 Vegeta than he did against SS1 Goku and we know Vegeta has gotten a lot stronger since then.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#66234: Oct 14th 2017 at 8:13:04 PM

Hell, we're actually just stalling time before Goku beats him at this rate...

I honestly don't know if he will. As has been pointed out before, Toriyama is a contrarian. If everyone thinks Goku is going to win, then he won't hesitate to have Goku lose just to screw with us.

On the other hand, after years of him pulling that shit, along with admitting he's a contrarian and will do what people don't expect (or try to at least) maybe enough people expect Goku to lose that he will win...

Which means there's a third option none of us have considered...except many have predicted a Double Knockout between Jiren and Goku as well.

So the only logical explanation is that the Zen-O's get bored and just decide to kill everyone anyway.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#66235: Oct 14th 2017 at 8:15:52 PM

[up][up]Oh yeah I forgot about that line.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#66236: Oct 14th 2017 at 8:27:06 PM

Regardless of the outcome, I feel like the line about Jiren's training being unusual is probably setting up Goku (and I guess Vegeta) going through it at some point after this is all over.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#66237: Oct 14th 2017 at 8:31:20 PM

[up][up][up]....You're starting to overthink this...

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#66238: Oct 14th 2017 at 8:32:52 PM

Anyone else find it weird Vegeta never took Cabba's offer to meet the Saiyan king of the latter's world?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#66239: Oct 14th 2017 at 8:33:03 PM

I hope the Namekians fuse and Piccolo punches Jiren out.

Wishful thinking? Yes.

Would it be awesome? YES!

edited 14th Oct '17 8:35:28 PM by Gehayadren

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#66240: Oct 14th 2017 at 8:37:43 PM

On a completely different note, I've figured out the source of Jiren's power:

Its' the power of no fucks given. He's not just crossing his arms to look cool. He's doing it to maximize his I don't give a shit power level.

The power of no fucks given is the greatest power of all! None can triumph over it.cool

[up][up][up]

You're probably right. He pre-wrote it, so the ending is likely already set in stone, and he can't change it. He can only write based on what he's already planning.

edited 14th Oct '17 8:38:53 PM by HandsomeRob

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Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#66241: Oct 14th 2017 at 8:38:48 PM

Also despite what the Pride troopers said. I think Jiren had to stop and meditate.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#66242: Oct 14th 2017 at 8:40:07 PM

[up][up]In other words, Caulifla is one of the most powerful Saiyans because she's a teenage delinquent. Of course!

edited 14th Oct '17 8:40:17 PM by MightyMatilda

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#66243: Oct 14th 2017 at 8:44:29 PM

[up]Nope. Still cares too much, since she's determined to look like a delinquent.

Jiren really doesn't care about shit at all. Guy can't even be arsed to uncross his arms when he's punching your face in...that's right. He punches your face in without even using his hands.

That's a testament to both his power, and his lack of fucks given. The best you'll get from him is a strong glare...quite literally.

edited 14th Oct '17 8:44:54 PM by HandsomeRob

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#66244: Oct 14th 2017 at 8:47:05 PM

I don't think Caulifla's a teenager. The U6 Saiyans strike me as young adults, around Gohan's age. Given how little fanfare was given to the U6 Namekians first clear appearance, I'm expecting them to be eliminated without much fanfare too. No fusing involved from any parties.

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#66245: Oct 14th 2017 at 9:00:46 PM

Nice try Hit. Seriously, nice try. You came within a foot of knocking Jiren out despite the difference in strength.

Ribrianne is pretty played out by this point I think. Vegeta was overwhelming her in base form there, which means the moment either he, Goku, or Freeza decide to get serious on her she's out.

Next episode: Saiyans who are not Goku! Cabba's turn to shine (and get totally beat up a lot by the looks of things).

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#66246: Oct 14th 2017 at 9:05:53 PM

Well, she was losing the will to fight and she wasn't Super Ribrianne. Remember that in 109, she was overwhelming Goku in Saiyan Beyond God without even going Super. She was probably just having a bad moment but she'll get back in there now that Rozie's helped her get her drive back.

edited 14th Oct '17 9:07:21 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#66247: Oct 14th 2017 at 9:07:12 PM

The double knock out I've seen brought up a few times, because it's a really obvious third option.

Anyway, just seeing the episode Ribrianne and Rosie are just so annoying. What a waste of screentime, we've already seen Ribrianne's super form go out like a chump and without that she's got nothing. Get rid of her already.

It's funny calling this a worf for Hit when he did waaaaaay better than he should have. Toppo and Hit both make it sound like Jiren's not deliberately pulling his punches, so there's no way Hit should have been able to stand up to so many blows. His trick at the end was cool, and Jiren overpowering it, while often, was pretty nicely executed. Also a glimpse of some sort of standards from Jiren - he doesn't seem to approve of Assassins, which is fitting given his theme. I don't like him choosing to just fuck around after his fight with Hit, though. Your universe is still outnumbered! This is a terrible idea! It'd be better if they established him as being really injured and needing to recuperate.

The Namekians, though... fighting against Piccolo is so boring. They shouldn't be anywhere on his level (to say nothing of Gohan being there), Piccolo is meant to be exceptional and introducing two new Namekians who are similarly prodigious is just going to cheapen that. The manga version of Universe 6 even has Piccolo noted as being exceptional for a Namekian, so I hope they don't just drop that here.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#66248: Oct 14th 2017 at 9:14:29 PM

Yea, Hit by far had the best showing against Jiren besides Goku. But nobody really cares about that lol.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#66249: Oct 14th 2017 at 9:16:48 PM

You should probably just assume that Jiren is pulling his punches because why the hell not. I still say him "conserving his energy" up until this point doesn't make sense. And now he has to recharge?

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#66250: Oct 14th 2017 at 9:17:38 PM

I mean, he hasn't been on the defensive once since he's started fighting so I'm sure he's still holding back.

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