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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#65801: Oct 8th 2017 at 9:04:50 PM

Gohan has a tracksuit and glasses, though. tongue

edited 8th Oct '17 9:05:25 PM by Hobgoblin

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#65802: Oct 8th 2017 at 9:04:53 PM

It's not just that they gave Gohan a track suit, but that he lost his gi, which is something a true martial artist wouldn't do.

In contrast, 18 isn't a devoted martial artist in the same way that Gohan is, and has no gi to lose.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#65803: Oct 8th 2017 at 9:05:45 PM

Gohan also seemed to have lost about a hundred pounds of muscle mass.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#65804: Oct 8th 2017 at 9:06:31 PM

I mean, wasn't Gohan's nerd hairstyle in Resurrection F noted to look pretty much exactly like Toriyama's own hairstyle?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#65805: Oct 8th 2017 at 9:07:28 PM

Yeah Gohan became a major twig-boy.

18 was always lean & it helps that she never lost her piercing expression.

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#65806: Oct 8th 2017 at 9:53:59 PM

I'm sitting here wondering how in the fuck Android 17 became so powerful (he's arguably beyond Cell at this point...) when all he's been doing is fighting poachers this entire time?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#65807: Oct 8th 2017 at 9:55:05 PM

Poachers are good exercise man.tongue

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#65808: Oct 8th 2017 at 9:56:20 PM

He ranged the shit outta that park for years.

What better reason do you need? tongue

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#65809: Oct 8th 2017 at 10:01:39 PM

[up][up]Indeed.

edited 8th Oct '17 10:02:47 PM by Anomalocaris20

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#65810: Oct 8th 2017 at 10:05:34 PM

this leaves us with three options

  1. Perfect Cell, and thus the androids, were a lot stronger than we typically give them credit for and are closer to Buu's power level than originally thought
  2. The people in the tournament of power are a lot closer to the power level of the Androids than to Buu
  3. Super has no clue on what power scaling is

...i think I'm going to go with 3

edited 8th Oct '17 10:06:08 PM by EpicBleye

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#65811: Oct 8th 2017 at 10:42:43 PM

[up][up]Haha I love that image. It's gotten bigger since I last saw it too.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#65812: Oct 8th 2017 at 10:51:41 PM

[up][up] well, 1 isn't a possibility, we know exactly how Cell compares to Majin Boo - he doesn't. He'd get slaughtered, the Boo arc makes this clear by saying the Super Saiyan 2s (all stronger than Cell and waaaaay stronger than the Androids) could never hope to defeat Fat Boo even working together

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#65813: Oct 8th 2017 at 11:19:19 PM

Also, Dabura was directly compared to Cell and we saw how well his fight with Buu went.

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#65814: Oct 9th 2017 at 12:20:09 AM

Gohan was made by Goku to be the team leader, it only makes sense there should be focus on him. Well, should, I'm still waiting for him to take that role.

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#65815: Oct 9th 2017 at 2:58:13 AM

Android 17 has done some very effective Level Grinding

I am procastrinating, but not excessively I think.
GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
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#65816: Oct 9th 2017 at 3:26:44 AM

Gohan was made by Goku to be the team leader, it only makes sense there should be focus on him. Well, should, I'm still waiting for him to take that role.

That is up to the writing staff as they seem to focus on the other characters.

Android 17 has done some very effective Level Grinding.

Or it could that he found some speedrunning trick that allows him to level grind in order to compete with gods. tongue

Which will never be tapped, because Toriyama doesn't want write Gohan...even though he doesn't want to develop Goku either.

I don't know if I entirely agree but considering how he handled Gohan post Buu.....

edited 9th Oct '17 3:47:26 AM by GAP

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#65817: Oct 9th 2017 at 3:41:14 AM

You can level grind even on trash mobs if you do it enough. And 17 had like a decade to do nothing but grind. Also I bet he used the kiloton training equipment to grind faster.

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#65818: Oct 9th 2017 at 4:29:33 AM

It's also worth noting that he has infinite stamina and only needs to drink water. He could constantly grind with only a few, quick breaks.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#65819: Oct 9th 2017 at 5:49:49 AM

[up]

That's actually a very good point. 17 can push himself for much longer than Goku or any of the pure fleshies.

Beating up poachers would be insufficient training for them but...

...yeah, no. I lost it. I don't think it works.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#65820: Oct 9th 2017 at 9:09:39 AM

So can someone post that song that plays when Goku does that epic kick against Jiren in his new form?

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#65821: Oct 9th 2017 at 10:09:06 AM

Something that MasakoX pointed out, but maybe Vegeta wasn't just being a jerk for not giving Goku energy, he wanted to be on guard to watch out or sneak attacks. Which proven quite prudent, as he prevented Ribrianne sneak attack on Goku.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#65822: Oct 9th 2017 at 10:19:22 AM

I'm surprised no one's noticed, but do y'all remember the scene where after everyone thought Goku died, they were still approaching Jiren? They also showed their respective gods as well. Champa with Hit and Cabba, Mosco with Paparoni and the green bots, Helles with Ribrianne, and Quitela with... footsteps.

This isn't the first time these footsteps have been heard, as they were faintly heard when Hit first encountered Jiren when Kale was subdued. It's obvious who's making these footsteps, but the question is why are they doing this for THAT character?

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#65823: Oct 9th 2017 at 10:36:29 AM

I guess this means that Quitela isn't just confident about the bugs because he's pulling a timer scam, but because he believes them to be capable fighters as well.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#65824: Oct 9th 2017 at 10:56:33 AM

[up] Not only that, but despite all that had happened throughout the last couple of episodes, Quitela stayed calm. He didn't even freak out when all of the gods found out about Goku reaching Ultra Instinct.

BigBlackBangBro Time Stranger Since: Sep, 2016
Time Stranger
#65825: Oct 9th 2017 at 1:22:26 PM

I really do wonder about the Jiren/Belmond relationship and backstory. Also anybody find it strange the Marcarita didn't know much about Jiren?

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