Glad Battle of Gods is coming to America. Wish Bruce Falcouner was doing the music. The lack of Bruce Falcouner is why I did not like Kai. I hated how they tried to make it more Japanese with the original music and trying to make the new voice for Gohan all girly.
Also is it me or does everything have to relate back to Frieza? Throw Cell a bone here.
Frieza was a major player in the universe whose actions shaped the course of galactic history for a very long time.
The most galactic impact Cell had was making King Kai homeless and Hercule a hero. He existed for a couple years at the most, and nearly all of it was spent as a bottom-feeding insect in some jungle on some low-level planet in the middle of nowhere. He was powerful, but he didn't accomplish much in the short span of his existence beyond being powerful and dying.
edited 31st May '14 9:13:01 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.He would have if he'd just blown up Earth and left.
As a bonus, he would have accidentally prevented the rise of Buu.
Also, I was re-watching the Kai ep where Goku reveals he can also use that .....I guess the only name I know it by is Ascended Super Saiyan and Ultra Super Saiyan forms, but opts against it because Regular Super Saiyan is still the form that uses the least amount of power, while being the most effective or something along those lines.
Anyway, I think I brought this up before, but what do you think would happen if Goku applies the Full-Power Super-Saiyan philosophy to Super Saiyan 2 or even 3. Would that help make both even stronger (or at least, do something about the massive power drain of 3)?
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I don't think he'd do it because the forms are inherently wasteful. That lightning? Cool-looking, but wasted energy leaking out. He's all about efficiency, always has been since the preliminaries of the Piccolo Jr. saga.
You're confusing Ultra Super Saiyan (the bulking up technique) with full power (staying Super Saiyan all the time).
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How do you know that? We don't even know the name of the new game let alone the roster.
According to the Special Edition of Dragon Ball Z Battle of Gods, on one of his random trips to Earth, Beerus wiped out the fucking dinosaurs because one of them acted rude to him during one of his trips to Earth millions of years ago.
Okay, at what time did the Dinosaurs suddenly repopulate if they were wiped out? Or is this a case of Beerus overestimating exactly how many dinosaurs he killed? Or did Toei and Toriyama Ass Pull this shit to make Beerus seems more intimidating and have a bigger role in the Dragon Ball universe?
edited 1st Jun '14 3:38:58 AM by FireShadow
That would actually be a hilariously awesome twist if it turned out that Beerus was responsible for the great inaccurately dubs for Dragon Ball Z for so many years because he didn't want anyone to know the "truth" about how the Dragon Ball Universe truly is.
I'm still trying to digest how Beerus performed a fucking sealing spell on one of the Gods of the Universe... which turned out to be quite possibly the single most significant event in the history of the Dragon Ball universe. As I stated previously:
"If Old Kai wasn't sealed in the sword, you can bet your ass he would have been killed or absorbed when Majin Buu went on his original rampage millions of years ago. And if Old Kai wasn't around, then Gohan doesn't get his Ultimate power up, Goku remains dead because Old Kai can't transfer his life in exchange for bringing Goku back from the dead and because Old Kai is dead the Potara earrings don't exist and Goku can't fuse with anyone and then Majin Buu would have killed EVERYONE!!"
I'm legitimately considering creating a meme in the fashion of "Remember (Insert significant event)... Beerus caused it." What do ya think?
edited 1st Jun '14 9:49:56 AM by FireShadow
Wait, why would Beerus kill off the dinosaurs? Why wouldn't he just blow up the planet? That seems to be his modus operandi.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.For that matter, why didn't he just vaporize Old Kai?
"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — UltimatepheerThere's a point where the ears shut down and you have to draw the lines between canon and headcanon.
Dragonball was finished years ago. 17 and 18 have names now? Great. Bills was the one who sealed Old Kai? Interesting. Chi-Chi sat Goku down through a sex-ed class? Funny. Goku's mom's name was Gine? Adorable.
Bills was involved in every conceivable plot hole, misnomer, or natural disaster that ever happened? Pass.
That would be like Tolkien's descendant showing up with some edited notes about Lord of the Rings and rewriting Gandalf as some evil clone of Sauramon who was only manipulating Frodo in the beginning but redeemed himself when he became 'Gandalf The White', or Lucas going back and claiming that Anakin's father was an important member of the Sith Order who arranged several events in the franchise from behind the scenes... Alright. Cool. It's information we didn't particularly need though.
The Force Unleashed has that problem. It introduces a never-before-seen character who is ridiculously powerful and was the catalyst for events that inevitably lead to Episodes IV-VI occurring. He's so ingrained that, had he not been there, the events of the Classic Star Wars trilogy would never have happened - and he's not even dead yet, technically, so he's like Ahsoka Tano, kind of floating around in the Expanded Universe waiting to be killed off by some inevitable future event, or retconned to appear after the fact.
I'm content with Bills being a God of Destruction that doesn't show up very often, being the biggest Bad Ass in the room, being something of a Lethal Joke Character, creating some minor implications on the greater flow of events and the universe in general, and then disappearing as the "final" villain shortly after. The rest is drifting off to a little folder labeled 'non-canon', along with Online, Supersonic Warriors 2, GT, and AF.
I guess imprisonment is just sweeter. If he died, Old Kai might spend eternity in Heaven, or it would put Bills in the wrong.
edited 1st Jun '14 1:01:49 PM by FOFD
...but Online is canon.
It's not like dismissing a random interview of an Unreliable Narrator, a random Gaiden Game, or GT, which is Canon Discontinuity. Online is confirmed to be canon. You can ignore it if you want, but we have a name for that.
edited 1st Jun '14 1:31:10 PM by BaffleBlend
"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — UltimatepheerLike I've been saying for the past few weeks. R-E-B-O-O-T This franchise needs it, just for the sake of creating consistency if anything else. That is probably the biggest issue with the franchise as a whole, it severely lacks consistency.
Because as far we know this is the official canon story of the Dragon Ball Universe in chronological order of how the story progresses from start to finish: Dragon Ball Minus -> Jaco The Galactic Patrolman -> Dragon Ball Manga -> Dragon Ball Z: Battle Of Gods -> Dragon Ball Manga -> Dragon Ball Online
Dragon Ball GT has become like Pluto, we can no longer recognize its existence as an integral part of the system, because there are way too many things working against it. Hell, you could pretty much say Dragon Ball Online loaded the gun and Battle Of Gods pulled the trigger... *BOOM* Headshot! And just like that, GT is officially dead. I'm just wondering who's gonna bury the body, it'll probably be the sequel to Battle Of Gods...
FYI, Here
, is the meme I was talking about making based on Beerus.
edited 2nd Jun '14 11:50:47 AM by FireShadow
Well it's what happens when what started as a Gag manga suddenly starts taking itself seriously and losing it's original premise I suppose.
One Strip! One Strip!Since I enjoyed GT as a whole, it remains headcanon for me with edits.
Minus/Jaco is Fanon Discontinuity for me for just being boring. And contradictory. And kind of sexist. Again.
edited 1st Jun '14 5:48:09 PM by BaffleBlend
"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
In what way is Jaco The Galactic Patrolman or Dragon Minus sexist? What other works by Toriyama do you consider sexist?
edited 1st Jun '14 6:17:22 PM by FireShadow

Bills likes to spend his time traveling the universe making random people believe they have the power to destroy entire planets, because he's a giant troll. His trolling nature was never more evident than on Planet Namek, where he decided to take his time and do it slowly, much to Frieza's utter confusion. Those five minutes that took hours? Yeah, that actually took hours. He kept accelerating and decelerating the pace of the explosion for lulz.
edited 30th May '14 2:42:36 PM by TobiasDrake
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