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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#65401: Oct 4th 2017 at 8:04:53 AM

He still handled it with maturity & grace.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#65402: Oct 4th 2017 at 8:11:43 AM

Yeah, that was pretty odd...

Good thing he slowly grew out of that...

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#65403: Oct 4th 2017 at 8:35:46 AM

So it's not even a transformation?

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#65404: Oct 4th 2017 at 8:51:45 AM

[up] It's a transformation, that's what the magazines and producers have been saying it is.

It just isn't a Super Saiyan transformation, at least it doesn't seem like it.

edited 4th Oct '17 8:52:02 AM by Rinsankajugin

XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#65405: Oct 4th 2017 at 9:27:05 AM

Funny, some people theorized that the new form would allow Goku to rely on his [possibly savage] instincts similar to how Jiren's fighting style is, so far, presented (dodging the last floorplates with his back turned, for instance).

Overall, I'm glad this transformation is giving itself a unique perk besides the power boost (well, assuming it does become, gotta be subversive...). Current ki techniques and transformations, as cool as they are, start to feel either samey or limited usage after a while, with the aforementioned power boost justifying them.

[down] Not to mention, in the anime, "Goku, stop dropping your guard."

edited 4th Oct '17 10:47:20 AM by XMenMutant22

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#65406: Oct 4th 2017 at 9:46:50 AM

So that's why the manga version of this arc has been emphasizing the "let your body move on its own" stuff from Resurrection F.

edited 4th Oct '17 9:47:11 AM by Moth13

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#65407: Oct 4th 2017 at 11:27:03 AM

Wow. I was expecting that particular Chekhov's Skill to come back at some point, and I even theorized that this new form could be incorporating it in some way, but I wasn't actually expecting to be right! Hell, I even had a personal thing where I was hoping that his new form would be something completely divorced from both Super Saiyan and Godly Ki, and I kind of got what I wanted there, too!

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#65408: Oct 4th 2017 at 12:29:55 PM

Sounds like we aren't going to see Goku's new form until next week.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#65409: Oct 4th 2017 at 12:41:22 PM

No, it's happening this weekend. The special is when it debuts.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#65410: Oct 4th 2017 at 12:42:56 PM

We knew Goku only transforms at the very end of special since long ago, didn't we?

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#65412: Oct 4th 2017 at 1:49:34 PM

[up][up] I thought we were just speculating.

Anyway, this supposedly not being a Saiyan transformation is interesting. I was expecting it to not be a Super Saiyan form, but if this has nothing to do with Blue or Kaio-ken does that mean Goku will be able to compete with Jiren and then use Blue or Kaio-ken on top of it later? I doubt that. Either it will be related to his other forms somehow (using that power) or it will be something he can't combine with them due to lack of control.

this being a technique that Goku uses doesn't surprise me though. Earlier spoilers had sad it was a last resort technique, so I wasn't expecting it to be something that triggered unintentionally.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#65413: Oct 4th 2017 at 2:24:33 PM

I'm kind of glad it's not a transformation related to Super Saiyan, makes it feel more unique. From the way it sounds though, it doesn't really increase Goku's power like his Super Saiyan transformations though, so he have to combine it with Blue to overcome Jiren.

edited 4th Oct '17 2:24:46 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#65414: Oct 4th 2017 at 6:50:55 PM

Hmm... This idea may be too fanficcy, but...

Would it be cool if the next Xenoverse game had some kind of team-up between Goku Black and Baby Vegeta, and eventually they fuse together into a twisted version of Vegito?

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#65415: Oct 4th 2017 at 7:02:01 PM

[up]The only difference fanfics and Xenoverse is that the later costs thousands of dollars to make.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#65416: Oct 4th 2017 at 7:03:38 PM

So Super Saiyan Rosé Oozaru Bebi Gogeta Black?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#65417: Oct 4th 2017 at 7:05:01 PM

Goku Black fusing with Baby Vegeta would be epic.

They'd make a fucked up Vegito & Gogeta.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#65418: Oct 4th 2017 at 7:07:18 PM

I would be so down for Zamasu Baby Vegetto in Xenoverse. That sounds dumb and amazing, and I want it.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#65419: Oct 4th 2017 at 7:07:58 PM

[up][up][up]I was considering Rosé Great Ape Vegito, but that just seemed a little too over-the-top.

Then again, if they were the main villains, it'd make for a good final boss form.

edited 4th Oct '17 7:10:59 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#65420: Oct 4th 2017 at 7:13:22 PM

Somewhere a Dragon Ball Heroes dev is frantically writing down notes.

This song needs more love.
Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#65421: Oct 4th 2017 at 7:14:48 PM

[up][up]That sounds so stupid, but I like it already. Make sure to have it fight Vegito in whatever new form the anime pulls.

[up]I wouldn't be surprised if someone from Toei is furiously lurking the forums.

edited 4th Oct '17 7:16:34 PM by Gehayadren

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#65422: Oct 4th 2017 at 7:19:20 PM

I mean, they'd probably go with Gogeta, if only because neither Bebi nor Zamasu have actually referred to Goku as "Kakarot".

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#65423: Oct 4th 2017 at 7:30:47 PM

Oh man, Mastery of Self-Movement Super Saiyan 4 Vegetto (Super Goku fused with GT Vegeta) vs Rose Oozaru Baby Gogeta Black.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#65424: Oct 4th 2017 at 7:31:23 PM

There's a good parallel to draw, too. Black was using a mortal body as an ironic vessel with which to wipe out mortal life; Baby was using a Saiyan body as an ironic vessel with which to take revenge upon the Saiyans.

And since one is from the Super timeline while the other is from GT, you have the requisite timeline fuckery to build a plot around. Maybe some kind of "Super vs. GT" intertwining that the Time Patrol has to sort out.

Also I want to hear Sean Schemmel and Mike McFarland speaking in unison.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#65425: Oct 4th 2017 at 7:31:55 PM

I'd be down for Baby Black, or just Black and Vegeta teaming up.

I think for a Xenoverse game, though, there is too much pressure to include Super characters for them to add a new plot with what-if forms.

Given roster constraints/bloating I think it'd be better suited to an RPG.

I came up with a Pokemon-esque RPG for this concept, Xenoverse's general idea with plenty of what-ifs to collect alongside the main cast. It'd be Xenoverse's premise but instead of a warrior summoned by Trunks, you are a tactician at the TP headquarters employing the characters in battle and building a time patrol team out of characters you unlock.


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