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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#65376: Oct 3rd 2017 at 5:52:05 PM

Either way they should have done an X-Men.

They are literally living with children from the future.

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edited 3rd Oct '17 5:52:34 PM by slimcoder

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#65377: Oct 3rd 2017 at 6:06:37 PM

I'm not a fan of the Super Dragon Balls either. Zalama was a fine addition, them not so much.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#65378: Oct 3rd 2017 at 6:55:34 PM

Boy the irony of being "subversive" in an attempt at not being predictable, ends up being predictable in of itself.

It's...poetic.

For you pro-wrestling fans out there, this is known as the Vince Russo "swerve" effect. tongue

edited 3rd Oct '17 6:58:04 PM by Lionheart0

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#65379: Oct 3rd 2017 at 9:42:16 PM

Ah, another video from Masako about how terrible Goku is and how perfect Vegeta is

In any case I have to respect how different Dragon Ball was and how Toriyama intentionally didn't give fans (and his editor) what he wanted. It clearly worked considering how much influence it had on literally every manga following it. But there's no denying that it's definitely caused issues as time went on.

[down]Yes, he literally spends the last few minutes gushing about how amazing a character Vegeta is and how bland and boring and unlikeable Goku is. As much as I find his analysis videos interesting this is getting annoying.

edited 3rd Oct '17 9:45:15 PM by EpicBleye

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#65380: Oct 3rd 2017 at 9:42:58 PM

[up] Oh crap does that really happen in the video?

edited 3rd Oct '17 9:43:20 PM by slimcoder

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#65381: Oct 3rd 2017 at 9:55:50 PM

Huh, really? I might actually see the video for that. I don't like opinion videos but that sounds hilarious

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#65382: Oct 3rd 2017 at 10:10:46 PM

...

I didn't really notice that, but he does kinda do that a lot.

...shit. I liked some of his videos too, even if I didn't agree with them all the time.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#65383: Oct 3rd 2017 at 10:18:49 PM

Nah, Goku's his favorite character. He's just recently become disillusioned with Goku's portrayal as a character, especially with how Vegeta's gotten SO much character development over the years.

edited 3rd Oct '17 10:19:24 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#65384: Oct 3rd 2017 at 10:20:16 PM

Well, there's no denying that between the two of them, Vegeta has changed a lot.

Goku has changed as well...but has stayed the same in many ways. You could say that while both of them have changed their circumstances, Vegeta has reacted to that, while Goku kinda...hasn't.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#65385: Oct 3rd 2017 at 10:21:44 PM

No, no Goku has changed.

Its just he has degraded instead of evolving. I mean I'm watching Kai on Toonami & its at the point where he first uses SS 3 & the differing characterizations does not mesh well with the Champa Arc of Super.

[down] Ah well I just got cynical there for a sec.

edited 3rd Oct '17 10:31:07 PM by slimcoder

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#65386: Oct 3rd 2017 at 10:29:43 PM

Why? He's said so repeatedly in past videos. He voices Goku for TFS. He has a show where he plays video games as Abridged Goku. He had a Q and A series of videos done using a plushie of Goku as a proxy. His goddamn channel and internet identity is named after Goku's voice actress!

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#65387: Oct 3rd 2017 at 10:34:26 PM

Also, whenever he does a what-if video, it's almost a guarantee that Vegeta dies.

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#65388: Oct 4th 2017 at 12:06:03 AM

Goku has definitely changed. For the worse.

Compare Goku in Kai, who was willing to put off fighting Buu in order to teach Goten and Trunks how to fuse so they could beat him to present Goku who is basically bugging anyone and everyone for a fight every couple of minutes even when Beerus outright tells him not to.

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#65390: Oct 4th 2017 at 5:22:49 AM

I guess Goku gives priority to the living when it is time to fight a strong opponent.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#65391: Oct 4th 2017 at 6:03:27 AM

Well, it's also worth noting that on Namek he outright told the Ginyu Force that he didn't want to fight. When he powers up to max against Ginyu, he gives him a chance to leave even though Ginyu is the strongest guy that he's met up to that point.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#65392: Oct 4th 2017 at 6:36:57 AM

[up]x4

Reminder that Beerus threatened Goku with deletion due to his sheer stupidity.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#65393: Oct 4th 2017 at 6:48:23 AM

He also pestered Whis like a fucking child because he couldn't wait 5 minutes for the man to finish eating.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#65394: Oct 4th 2017 at 6:59:16 AM

So, basically, Super is garbage and ruins everyone's character. Nothing new has been learned here.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#65395: Oct 4th 2017 at 7:08:07 AM

Apparently Goku's new form is called Mastery of Self-Movement.

So, not a Super Saiyan thing apparently.

edited 4th Oct '17 7:08:18 AM by Rinsankajugin

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#65396: Oct 4th 2017 at 7:16:02 AM

So it's that thing Whis does and Beerus does in the manga? Then why are Goku's eyes silver?

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#65397: Oct 4th 2017 at 7:16:37 AM

Oof and I thought Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan was rough.

This song needs more love.
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#65398: Oct 4th 2017 at 7:22:34 AM

[up][up] Not sure, but according to the episode 111 description, Goku after being beaten by Jiren and releasing this new power lets his body move on it's own and is trying to figure out how to use it while Jiren is fighting Hit. Essentially, Goku doesn't really have control over it, at least for the moment. As for the silver eyes, I'm guessing it's what Gods and Angels have. I think Angels have silver eyes, IIRC.

edited 4th Oct '17 7:23:46 AM by Rinsankajugin

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#65399: Oct 4th 2017 at 7:26:21 AM

I mean, in the case of the Ginyu Force, all of them were pathetically weaker than he was so he wasn't going to get any enjoyment out of fighting them; even Ginyu became weaker than him once he used a basic Kaioken.

Plus, you know, they had just got done beating up his best friend and snapping the neck of his six year old son. Oh, and they also kicked Vegeta's ass.

edited 4th Oct '17 7:26:50 AM by Ssj3Gojira

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#65400: Oct 4th 2017 at 8:03:11 AM

And that's why he didn't want to fight them?

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