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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#65326: Oct 3rd 2017 at 5:24:54 AM

Okay, so I was mostly thinking of Napapa and Methiop, because those are the only ones who left an impression on me. Maybe they were just the assholes of the group, in which case I basically have no strong impression of Universe 10.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#65327: Oct 3rd 2017 at 5:26:12 AM

That's pretty much the only characterization that U 10 got. There was also Obuni, who was a typical Single Alien Seeks Strong Opponent. But, like, he had a locket with a photo of his family! Isn't that heartbreaking??

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#65328: Oct 3rd 2017 at 5:39:07 AM

So, Saiga, you are like the Grinch, if he had an encyclopedical knowledge of Solstice festivities and a fondness for Saturnalia. tongue

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#65329: Oct 3rd 2017 at 6:24:02 AM

Did you feel anything for Universe 10? Kind of hard to with so little characterization...

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#65330: Oct 3rd 2017 at 6:45:28 AM

I can't say any of these universes have left a strong impression on me. They're all mostly pretty generic and gimmicky characters. If you like that, fine, but I can't honestly say that most of them are particularly well-written or investing enough to care about them.

I mean, it's sad when they get erased, but that feeling moves on quickly, because the show moves on quickly from it.

edited 3rd Oct '17 8:21:24 AM by LSBK

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#65331: Oct 3rd 2017 at 8:17:41 AM

Its a consequence of having so many characters, some are inevitably going to be shafted.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#65332: Oct 3rd 2017 at 10:39:42 AM

It should only matter in the instant, otherwise nothing about it matters.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#65333: Oct 3rd 2017 at 10:44:17 AM

Universe 9's destruction was handled better than Universe 10's because it had shots of the universe vanishing, not just the characters.

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#65334: Oct 3rd 2017 at 11:56:36 AM

They should had done a lot of things in this tournament better such as getting to care about the other characters who aren't Universe 7. I really wish that they stuck with the tournament format of old as I really don't feel that the Battle Royale was good the kind of story they were trying to tell and it is difficult to care about any of the characters when they are mostly just fodder for anyone who isn't Universe 7. Not to mention, the some of the jokes really feel out of place considering that they are fighting for their lives. Granted, Dragon Ball was never super serious but it does know when to be serious and when to be silly.

edited 3rd Oct '17 11:57:31 AM by GAP

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#65335: Oct 3rd 2017 at 12:17:14 PM

The Battle Royal was something different, and I can't blame Toriyama for wanting to shake things up a bit, but yeah, the regular format might have worked better for giving the other universes a bit more characterization.

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XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#65336: Oct 3rd 2017 at 12:55:01 PM

The official TOEI Youtube Page uploaded a (slightly) extended NEP for the special.

     Poor Man's Spark Notes 

  • One scene features Jiren quickly dodging and countering SSJ Blue Goku's second kick, who had activated Kaioken x20 at the last minute, with a grappling throwing leading to Goku switching to evasive maneuvers. Interestingly, for me, Jiren is fazed by Goku's first strike to the head temporarily, rather than tanking it like the (grain of salt) early descriptions made it out to be.

  • Base Goku throws the Spirit Bomb at Jiren, featuring an overhead shot demonstrating how massive it is within the Tournament Arena (guesstimating about 1/5 of the floor space). After a close-up shot of a stoic Jiren turns into a scowl, Goku powers up in SSB Kaioken x20 for more oomph.

  • Jiren's shocked by the Spirit Bomb, with another close-up on his reflective eyes, but it cuts to a prophet-eyed SSBKK Goku looking very exasperated as he controls the bomb. The black lighting effects from the last preview are still present.

  • The bomb seemingly detonates as it shatters more pieces of the arena and engulfing the place in blinding light, including a silhouetted Goku floating in the middle in his tattered Gi. Ends the same as before, with "Limit Breaker" Goku sternly glaring at the camera.

edited 3rd Oct '17 12:56:50 PM by XMenMutant22

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#65338: Oct 3rd 2017 at 1:44:04 PM

[up],[up][up] Alright, so the initial scrimmage doesn't look like it's going to be quite a Curb-Stomp Battle like the description was making it sound.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#65339: Oct 3rd 2017 at 2:17:55 PM

Called it, the Spirit Bomb seems to be the catalyst.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#65340: Oct 3rd 2017 at 2:30:40 PM

I wanna see who's idea this was.

I like the idea that Toriyama decided to bring back the Spirit Bomb, and integrate it into his transformations.

I've complained a bit about how technique stopped being important, but I know that's not 100% true.

Full powered Super Saiyan was proof of that.

One Strip! One Strip!
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#65341: Oct 3rd 2017 at 2:33:11 PM

Eat shit Saiga, I knew they'd do another call back evil grin

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#65342: Oct 3rd 2017 at 2:42:08 PM

[up]

Dude. Don't be like that.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#65343: Oct 3rd 2017 at 2:44:37 PM

Alright so absorbing Spirit Bomb energy is becoming canon.

How did the Super 13 movie do it?

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#65344: Oct 3rd 2017 at 2:47:33 PM

Goku makes the Spirit Bomb as a Super Saiyan (I think) and then absorbs it before going apeshit on Super 13.

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#65345: Oct 3rd 2017 at 2:48:14 PM

It was already 'canon' with Trunks last arc.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#65347: Oct 3rd 2017 at 2:56:13 PM

@Handsome Rob: Never. (Also, I obviously don't mean it)

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#65348: Oct 3rd 2017 at 2:58:18 PM

Technically didn't Trunks subconsciously teach himself the Spirit Bomb?

Wasn't that what he did with his Sword to defeat Zamasu?

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#65349: Oct 3rd 2017 at 3:02:38 PM

Zamasu would be so disappointed if he lived to see Universe 10's team.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#65350: Oct 3rd 2017 at 3:04:00 PM

Goku didn't go Super Saiyan until after he'd made the bomb.

Also there's this:

I knew about the stuff with Vegeta's death, but still, it's a little worrying that Toriyama is THAT much of a Contrarian. Subverting things just for the hell of it (even in situations where it might not be the best narrative decision) might not be so much of a good idea.

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