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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#65151: Sep 29th 2017 at 8:22:44 PM

[up] It doesn't really work, though? It's basically punishing the good guys for being good.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#65152: Sep 29th 2017 at 8:24:02 PM

It also makes the Namekian race and Zalama look horribly stupid for ever making dragon balls.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#65153: Sep 29th 2017 at 8:24:23 PM

Yeah. They should be punished for being stupid.

Well, that happens too sometimes, but still.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#65154: Sep 29th 2017 at 8:25:28 PM

Yeah. It only works if there is an in-universe reason that the gang shouldn't use the balls the way they do.

As it is, not using the balls to mend collaterial damage would be FAR more irresponsible.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#65155: Sep 29th 2017 at 8:26:27 PM

[up][up][up]It isn't...

It's punishment for abusing power, all wishes apply.

edited 29th Sep '17 8:26:44 PM by randomness4

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#65156: Sep 29th 2017 at 8:26:37 PM

The Shadow Dragons are for the balls being overused.

From what we saw on Namek there barely used over there while the heroes gather them up yearly.

I don't think there built to be used that often.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#65157: Sep 29th 2017 at 8:27:58 PM

[up][up] They don't abuse their power, though - they mostly use them to fix what the villains have done.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#65158: Sep 29th 2017 at 8:35:14 PM

I mean, wasn't a point made that the negative energy would disperse over time...over the course of a century of waiting? That was the whole point of why the balls scattered all over the place at all, because trying to find seven small orbs across an entire planet without anyway to tell where any of them actually were would take a long ass time, enough that hopefully at least most of the negative energy would have dispersed by then.

The problem was that because Bulma made a radar for them at all in the first place, it drastically sped up the process of finding them, and between that and all the shit that kept coming to Earth because Goku was there, it made it so the negative energy kept building up more and more until the Shadow Dragons were born.

Plus, remember, the Namekians have really only used their Dragon Balls all of once to get themselves off their original planet before Frieza came to their new planet like a century or more later, and we don't even know if the Super Dragon Balls were ever used before the Universe 6 Saga even happened; the fact the orbs are both the size of planets and split between two separate universes, would probably make it hard for anyone to actually collect them at all.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#65159: Sep 29th 2017 at 8:38:25 PM

[up][up]Because they're failures, they can't stop the damage before it's done...

Some of it unavoidable, some of it their fault...

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#65160: Sep 29th 2017 at 8:38:34 PM

On top of everything else, it makes the existence of dragon balls nothing but a hazard in the making. There'd be no reason anyone shouldn't destroy them after finding out about the negative energy.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#65161: Sep 29th 2017 at 8:45:31 PM

No one but the divine beings would know about that...

The fact that the Dragon Balls immediately went away after the problem was miraculously fixed says this type of situation wouldn't even be often occurring...

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#65162: Sep 29th 2017 at 8:46:15 PM

I mean, it doesn't really help that none of the heroes can really accept the consequences of their actions (like all the errors in judgment that led to Buu being released at all and not going to Dr. Gero's hideout before all the shit hit the fan when it did, simply because they wanted to fight the Androids), or accept that death happens and people need to move on. Like, use it if the entire human population and/or the planet dies, but you shouldn't use them if it's only to bring back like five people, especially if they, in a meta sense, do all of jackshit for the rest of the franchise.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#65163: Sep 29th 2017 at 8:46:56 PM

[up][up]I don't even know what you're trying to say, let alone how what you said counters my point.

edited 29th Sep '17 8:47:10 PM by VeryMelon

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#65164: Sep 29th 2017 at 8:51:01 PM

Nobody would be able to learn about the negative consequences of over-using the Dragon Balls.

It's actually impossible.

edited 29th Sep '17 8:51:54 PM by randomness4

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#65165: Sep 29th 2017 at 9:15:33 PM

I said the balls should be destroyed once the negative energy was discovered, though. My post is about what needed to be done, not its plausibility.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#65166: Sep 29th 2017 at 9:16:58 PM

Yeah they should either be destroyed or never used again.

Omega Shenron was for a time the strongest antagonist in the series & he was a bitch to kill.

If that shit happens again then the Earth is screwed.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#65167: Sep 29th 2017 at 9:18:17 PM

They seem pretty indestructible...but who knows.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#65168: Sep 29th 2017 at 9:20:43 PM

Zamasu was able to destroy the Super Dragon Balls.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#65169: Sep 29th 2017 at 9:23:01 PM

[up][up]In the Name saga, Krillin tried to destroy the Dragon Balls. While he didn't get to do it, the implication is that he would've been able to if he had the chance.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#65170: Sep 29th 2017 at 9:31:08 PM

What'd they do with the Dragon Balls at the end of GT?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#65171: Sep 29th 2017 at 9:32:43 PM

Goku and Shenron took them away, never to be seen again.

Also, you all are saying it wrong. It's not "negative energy" that the Dragon Balls accumulate, it's    NNNNNEGATIVE ENERGY.   

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#65172: Sep 29th 2017 at 9:33:28 PM

...Zamasu only destroyed the Super Dragon Balls because he actually wished for them to be destroyed.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#65173: Sep 29th 2017 at 9:34:03 PM

Never to be seen again for "x amount of years"...

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#65174: Sep 29th 2017 at 11:08:56 PM

So are skill drop rates in Xenoverse 2 shit, or am I just having bad luck?

I've killed Guldo about 15 times now in Parallel Quest 13 and he still hasn't dropped Psycho Escape.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#65175: Sep 29th 2017 at 11:16:03 PM

That's weird, Xenoverse 2 really improved the drop rates. Are you triggering the Ultimate Finish?


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