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#6476: May 21st 2014 at 11:25:45 AM

Maybe Raditz didn't know all that much about Earth and the power levels of its inhabitants. Thinking about it more it makes a lot more sense if finding Goku was something Raditz came up with and largely did on his own. There's no reason for Vegeta or Nappa to think he was necessary. Now why Raditz bothered is another question since Raditz doesn't seem the family type.

bloodsquirrel Since: May, 2011
#6477: May 21st 2014 at 1:02:48 PM

The locals might have been dangerous enough in numbers to be a threat to Raditz, and he wanted another Sayain to help watch his back (Vegeta and Nappa weren't exactly the type to overly concern themselves with their comrade's well-being).

Also, the fact that Raditz expected Goku to be stronger than he, in and of itself, demonstrates that Raditz had imperfect information. It was reasonable for Raditz to think that Goku would have been stronger, it just wasn't correct.

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#6478: May 21st 2014 at 3:24:23 PM

I was reminded of why I love Dragon Ball today: [1]

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#6479: May 21st 2014 at 8:16:39 PM

[up] Indeed! evil grin

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I'm watching the scenes before Vegito was created, and I'm wondering: Vegeta was dead. DEAD. Goku fused with him, mind and soul and body... and Vegito didn't have a halo.

Creepy.

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#6480: May 21st 2014 at 8:17:07 PM

Vegito had a half-life.

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#6481: May 22nd 2014 at 1:54:48 AM

Raditz just wanted to reunite with his family, but that bastard Goku killed him.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#6482: May 22nd 2014 at 2:05:52 AM

No, that was Piccolo's fault. He loves breaking up families, which is why he killed Goku and kidnapped Gohan.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#6483: May 22nd 2014 at 11:16:31 AM

Is that why he tried to kill Android 17, too?

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RandomGuy96 Since: Apr, 2014
#6484: May 22nd 2014 at 2:35:39 PM

Piccolo doesn't have a family himself.

Misery loves company.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#6485: May 22nd 2014 at 9:12:41 PM

Is it Seripa, or Fasha?

Are people going to stick with the name "Tanipu" (where did that come from anyway?), or will they convert to "Gine"?

Lastly - reading the Wiki, it says that Old Kai's enem was Beerus, and that the enemy was strong, but not as strong as Majin Buu. Da'fawk?

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#6486: May 22nd 2014 at 9:18:22 PM

It's possible that Beerus wasn't always as strong as he is now, and when he sealed Old Kai away he was weaker than Majin Buu; remember, Old Kai was sealed away several eons before the series even started.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#6487: May 23rd 2014 at 1:39:54 AM

Or, like everything else to do with Beerus, it was retconned to fit him in. Beerus is like Danzo in that he's responsible for everything.

After all, the reason for Old Kaioshin being sealed was completely changed (from his enemy fearing the ability to getting into an argument with Beerus).

edited 23rd May '14 1:40:31 AM by Saiga

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#6488: May 23rd 2014 at 3:37:36 AM

That one actually can be fit in, since we know Elder Kai would be the kind to embellish the story a bit to make himself seem cooler than he was. What's cooler than being sealed away because you're so awesome?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#6489: May 23rd 2014 at 8:29:03 AM

That's not embellishing the story, that's lying.

And a plot hole is still a plot hole when it takes a fan to fill it in.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#6490: May 23rd 2014 at 8:34:56 AM

[up]Well there are five ways to look at it:

1) Plot hole, just like you said

2) He lied or embellished, as suggested above.

3) Beerus was weaker back then, as someone pointed out, and feared Old Kai would power up someone who could beat him, so he sealed him away.

4) Beerus was weaker, so asked Old Kai to power him up, but like Gohan, got impatient, and sealed him away, and only realized afterwards that it had worked (hence the argument).

5) Old Kai was wrong about why he was sealed, and made a logical assumption based on what he knew.

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#6491: May 23rd 2014 at 8:38:22 AM

1 is true not matter what others you go with. Beerus' strength is one thing but the two reasons don't reconcile.

edited 23rd May '14 8:38:32 AM by Saiga

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#6492: May 23rd 2014 at 9:55:20 AM

Not much for alternate thought patterns are you?

Eh, you're probably right. I can be pretty inconsistent about who I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt to. I admit I'm likely overthinking it.

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#6493: May 23rd 2014 at 10:27:25 AM

6) Or Beerus is turning into an insufferable Plot Tumor.

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#6494: May 23rd 2014 at 10:33:02 AM

Next manga special: Beerus impregnated Goku's mother.

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#6495: May 23rd 2014 at 10:40:07 AM

MERCERNARY TAO WAS HIRED BY BEERUS. BEERUS FOUND THE RICE COOKER FOR PILAF. CELL LEARNED HIS ATTACKS FROM BEERUS. BEERUS IS THE ONE WHO WOKE UP BEERUS.

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#6496: May 23rd 2014 at 10:55:37 AM

I make it a personal philosophy not to take anything a character says as inviolate. People can often be biased, ignorant, playing with the truth, or even outright lying.

edited 23rd May '14 10:56:26 AM by TobiasDrake

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#6497: May 23rd 2014 at 11:06:17 AM

6) Or Beerus is turning into an insufferable Plot Tumor.

I fully acknowledge that that is also a viable explanation.

Between Saiga's Plot Hole theory, and that one, it's pretty much a tie.

The alternate theories are just me playing around. I'd say that we should probably wait to hear what Toriyama has to say as an explanation, but I'm no longer sure if I can trust him.

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#6498: May 23rd 2014 at 11:25:02 AM

Plot holes aren't theories unless its banked by official non-contradictory info or if its a baseless claim from lack of attention / mis-understanding.

edited 23rd May '14 11:26:08 AM by randomness4

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#6499: May 23rd 2014 at 2:56:57 PM

That's what happen when you restart a thing but still wants to keep bonds to something old of fear of rejection to something new.

By the way, I'm talking about franchises, not relationships.

What is anime? Anime is...only a weeaboo way of saying animation, really.
RandomGuy96 Since: Apr, 2014
#6500: May 23rd 2014 at 3:55:56 PM

When will Battle of Gods get a dub? I've been waiting


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