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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#64751: Sep 24th 2017 at 8:58:53 AM

Not agreeing with his fanon is snide?

I notice a lot of these debates, you guys always go after Saiga himself rather than his arguments. Ad Hoenheim and whatnot.

edited 24th Sep '17 9:00:23 AM by BlackYakuzu94

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#64752: Sep 24th 2017 at 8:59:54 AM

Some people take any kind of sarcasm as snide. Nothing you can do about it except nod and move on to better things.

Like Frost, who expected that outcome? I legit didn't.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#64753: Sep 24th 2017 at 9:00:59 AM

You almost had me with that.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#64754: Sep 24th 2017 at 9:08:13 AM

Not agreeing with his fanon is snide?

No it isn't, but that's not what was happening.

That I've wasted years of my life working my ass off for a pipe dream that might never come to fruition? What's so unbelievable about that?

Oh no I totally believe it will never come to fruition.

That's just being a dick for no reason.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#64755: Sep 24th 2017 at 9:12:06 AM

@Yakuzu: I know "ad Hoenheim" is a reference to something, but I don't know what it is.

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Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#64756: Sep 24th 2017 at 9:34:54 AM

This argument is needlessly stupid.

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#64757: Sep 24th 2017 at 9:47:19 AM

[up][up] Fullmetal Alchemist.

edited 24th Sep '17 9:47:30 AM by Zelenal

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#64758: Sep 24th 2017 at 9:47:55 AM

[up][up]It's not our fault it got revived.

edited 24th Sep '17 9:48:22 AM by VeryMelon

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#64759: Sep 24th 2017 at 9:48:57 AM

nvm

edited 24th Sep '17 9:49:08 AM by Moth13

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#64760: Sep 24th 2017 at 9:58:35 AM

Remember to not hurt other people's feelings guys.

I actually fucked up the spelling lol. It's ad hominem.

[up][up][up][up] Dragon Ball tends to do that to some people.

edited 24th Sep '17 9:58:55 AM by BlackYakuzu94

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#64761: Sep 24th 2017 at 10:16:54 AM

So one thing I heard about Gohan's role in the latest episode was that he figured out was Freeza was up to and played along with it. I find that a good use of Gohan's intellect.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#64762: Sep 24th 2017 at 10:26:13 AM

Others just feel like he got rused and used lol.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#64763: Sep 24th 2017 at 10:30:13 AM

That's just being a dick for no reason.

In this one instance, I'd actually agree with you on it being unnecessarily snide. I've mentioned it before, however likely Pushover's movies are to actually come to fruition isn't much of a reason to harp about them not happening.

But for the most part I agree with Yakuza about you and others, focusing less on the content of what people are actually saying and more about if it wasn't "polite" enough. Polite in quotes because things here usually don't actually get uncivil, there's just not a lot of intentionally dancing around things to make sure no one ever gets offended.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#64764: Sep 24th 2017 at 10:37:41 AM

[up][up]This fandom doesn't surprise me anymore. Of course most of them can't recognize a good moment if it isn't about fighting.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#64765: Sep 24th 2017 at 10:50:28 AM

Remember to not hurt other people's feelings guys.

If being kind to your fellow tropers is not inherently valuable for its own sake, being a dick is against the rules.

focusing less on the content of what people are actually saying and more about if it wasn't "polite" enough. Polite in quotes because things here usually don't actually get uncivil, there's just not a lot of intentionally dancing around things to make sure no one ever gets offended.

Well, I disagree with you about things not being a problem. I find the atmosphere of the thread hostile a lot of the time. And you gotta stop acting like being polite is some monumental inconvenience that would ruin conversations.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#64766: Sep 24th 2017 at 11:01:26 AM

[up]Now, I would call this an actual strawman. I never said anything about politeness being horrible or terrible inconvenient, I said you conflate just being clear and perhaps blunt with your opinions as being impolite.

I do think that things can get out of hand here, mostly with interactions with a couple of people, but seem more interesting in stifling actual discussion than addressing that. It comes off more like you valuing a fake civility over actually discussing what the thread is supposed to be discussing.

Honestly, if this seems like such a constant problem with you, I'd figure you'd just bring it to the mods attention. If they agree with you, things would probably change, and if not, well...

edited 24th Sep '17 11:03:44 AM by LSBK

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#64767: Sep 24th 2017 at 11:24:02 AM

[up][up][up]It's more because people love taking the piss out of Gohan nowadays

[up][up] Except nobody was being a dick? If you honestly consider the things that get said here to "being a dick", then I honestly don't know what to say. What do you think this is? It's an internet forum for people to discuss a bunch of culture and genre conventions.

I'm sorry if you can't handle the straightforward and blunt opinions of a couple of people from behind a computer screen, but I really don't know what to tell you. If it really was a big a problem as you claim it to be, the mods would have said something already. By all means, have them come in here and judge our conduct, maybe I'm wrong.

But I honestly don't feel anything being said here has crossed any sort of line; nobody is attacking anyone personally, we're just discussing our views on a manga series from over 20 years.

So I see no need for these fake pleasantries that you think we should conduct ourselves with, because nobody is or has been attacked. And if you feel like you've been attacked, then once again, take it to the mods and let them sort it out.

edited 24th Sep '17 11:30:42 AM by BlackYakuzu94

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#64768: Sep 24th 2017 at 11:30:16 AM

Gohan did look like a scrub this episode - first having to run from that small robot, then getting his teeth kicked in by Jimez. But he actually figured out Freeza plan fairly early, so why would people focus on that is beyond me.

Also guys, I decided to take over Toei and make them do Dragon Ball Super / PreCure crossover.

Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#64769: Sep 24th 2017 at 11:30:28 AM

Everyone seems to rag on Gohan based on the first two arcs of Super, and look where he is now.

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#64770: Sep 24th 2017 at 11:31:12 AM

....Still getting ragged on?

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#64771: Sep 24th 2017 at 11:32:01 AM

It's a combination of the first two arcs, his shafting from Z, and the general mutiny against his vocal fanbase.

[up][up] It's not as bad as back in the first parts of Super, but it's still there.

edited 24th Sep '17 11:32:29 AM by BlackYakuzu94

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#64772: Sep 24th 2017 at 11:36:51 AM

I'm indifferent to Gohan. Never particularly disliked him, but never particularly liked him either.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#64773: Sep 24th 2017 at 11:43:27 AM

Gohand is da bland nerd...

If only his build was learning to be a better fighter in skill...

Not being overconfident in a winning fight...

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#64774: Sep 24th 2017 at 11:46:25 AM

Gohan is kinda boring. At least Vegeta and Piccolo had character arcs before recycling their beats. To me, Gohan always felt like "The nice kid that doesn't like to fight a lot, but is really powerful when he gets mad. Except Goku still has to be the main character, so Gohan getting mad accomplishes about as much as a fart."

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#64775: Sep 24th 2017 at 11:49:34 AM

On a different matter, I thought Toppa said they should quit it with all the justice talk?

I figured that Frieza would try and get more out of Frost before betraying him.


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