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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#64576: Sep 21st 2017 at 4:52:54 PM

I also wonder if we'll ever learn what Dr. Rota's powers are.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#64577: Sep 21st 2017 at 5:12:39 PM

A Ph D in boar science, of course. He developed the boar atom model, after all.

edited 21st Sep '17 5:13:01 PM by Eriorguez

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#64578: Sep 21st 2017 at 5:32:34 PM

Was his model based on a boron atom?

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Larfleeze Agent Orange Since: May, 2009
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#64579: Sep 21st 2017 at 5:33:57 PM

Weird how we didn't see Champa's reaction to Dr. Rota and Megetta getting eliminated.

edited 21st Sep '17 5:34:54 PM by Larfleeze

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#64580: Sep 21st 2017 at 5:39:36 PM

I don't think he had high expectations for them to begin with. The Saiyans, Frost, and Hit are his heavy-hitters; they're the ones he's concerned about.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#64581: Sep 21st 2017 at 5:56:02 PM

And the Namekians still haven't done anything.

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#64582: Sep 21st 2017 at 6:08:55 PM

They have stayed in the ring, which is far more useful.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#64583: Sep 21st 2017 at 6:20:43 PM

Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 comes out for Switch tomorrow. As someone who hasn't played either, anything I should know going in?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#64584: Sep 21st 2017 at 6:31:55 PM

Play the XV 1 story first. 2's story is derivitive, but does not capture enough of 1 to completely replace it.

No matter what build you make, you can't go wrong with raising basic attack because unless you're a pure spammer you will be doing basic combos a lot (as is the nature of fighting games).

In harder battles using hit and run tactics works best, when you're outnumbered things can go south really quickly if you stay still long enough for them to gang up on you

2's gameplay is waaay smoother than 1, but I'm not sure if the Switch version of XV 1's story uses the XV 2 engine.

edited 21st Sep '17 6:33:07 PM by Saiga

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#64585: Sep 21st 2017 at 6:33:17 PM

I don't know if you can just play XV 1's story right off the bat. From what I've heard you have to make progress in 2's story before it becomes unlocked, and stuff. Though it does use 2's engine.

Thank you, by the way. I'll take those into consideration.

edited 21st Sep '17 6:34:33 PM by Anomalocaris20

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#64586: Sep 21st 2017 at 6:35:32 PM

They have stayed in the ring, which is far more useful.

You know it just now occurred to me that a giant, immovable, sentient rock would be overpowered in this tournament. They can't get pushed out of the ring and if they get blown up, then that counts as killing and they're disqualified.

edited 21st Sep '17 6:35:39 PM by LordVatek

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#64587: Sep 21st 2017 at 6:38:07 PM

I'm also still wondering what the Invisibugs' role will be, given that they made a point to show Beerus is worried about them since even he can't sense them.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#64588: Sep 21st 2017 at 6:38:25 PM

You just throw away one member to kill them, then, or destroy the ground under them.

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#64589: Sep 21st 2017 at 6:47:25 PM

How would said immovable rock even get to the arena?

Do we actually know for sure what's up with the invisibugs? The original datamining of Damon's profile said that they can turn invisible and camouflage, someone else said that they're unseen because they're underground, and a lot of people are saying that they can't be seen because they're actually ant-sized, yet I haven't seen a source for either of the latter two claims.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#64590: Sep 21st 2017 at 9:21:06 PM

I'm thinking 17 is next (or at least, may go before 18), because he's already had a focus episode (where 18 was a secondary part of Krilin's focus episode) - and the tournament's very episodic nature has been reliant on a "focus episode, followed by knockout or otherwise incapacitation" formula for both important antagonists and especially for the heroes. It has a habit of discarding secondary characters after getting a momentary show out of them.

Though that, of course, doesn't preclude the possibility that she simply gets a focus episode and then gets knocked out between now and 17's inevitable knockout.

edited 21st Sep '17 9:36:23 PM by KnownUnknown

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#64591: Sep 21st 2017 at 9:42:58 PM

I'd hate the idea of 17 and 18 being knocked out. Their unlimited stamina should give them a huge advantage...then again, Jiren has been conserving Ki this whole time, and he's more powerful than both twins so I guess it doesn't mean much when the power gap is that big.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#64592: Sep 21st 2017 at 9:53:49 PM

Well... unlimited ki doesn't mean unlimited strength. They can still get knocked out by a stronger opponent (or by an opponent with a good enough sneak attack, in the case of 18's slip up earlier). They're perpetual motion machines, but they still have a definite output level - though that level can be trained to be higher now.

Like if you had a 9V battery that could somehow run for eternity. You'd never need to stop powering things with it, but in the end it would still be a 9V battery.

edited 21st Sep '17 9:56:49 PM by KnownUnknown

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#64593: Sep 21st 2017 at 10:00:34 PM

The idea is that after 18 grueling frieza-minutes of fighting a lot of the fighters will have used up a bunch of their power, while the androids are still at full strength, so they'd have the advantage now even if they didn't initially (except against Jiren, who has opted to stand around instead of fight).

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#64594: Sep 21st 2017 at 10:13:10 PM

I would say "Dragon Ball doesn't work that way" buuuuuut this is Super and it works whatever way it wants to, everything else, including itself, be damned.

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#64595: Sep 22nd 2017 at 12:45:32 AM

Provisional titles are out for 111-113 (AKA the three episodes after the special):

111: Hit vs Jiren!!

112: Vegeta's Resolve!!

113: Fighting Maniac Saiyan Battle

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#64596: Sep 22nd 2017 at 2:17:05 AM

The problem with Goku staying in play after Jiren is because it makes him a Story-Breaker Power. Where's the tension when he's by far the strongest fighter? Well, besides those two hidden Universe 4 fighters being even stronger. Which means that Jiren is either going to exhaust most of his power and be a more reasonable SSB tier, or its a double K.O

With Frieza, I would like to point out how absurdly strong he could become and why Goku is an absolutely moron if he honors the agreement. In four months of not very intense training Frieza goes from 120 million power level to equal to Goku's new god essence base in his base. For comparison, Goku and Vegeta are about the same strength. Base Vegeta in the filler Potafu Arc owned SSJ 3 Gotenks. Goten and Trunks probably haven't gotten much stronger since the Buu Arc since they don't train. SSJ 3 Gotenks surpasses base Super Buu.

This means that when fighting Goku, his base is at least Super Buu. I don't know the exact difference, but it's clearly a lot. I am convinced that if Frieza trained his entire life, he would surpass Beerus. I'm pretty sure he could surpass Beerus now with god aura and his own equivalent to Super Saiyan Blue. Platinum Frieza, maybe?

Don't even get me started about what this means for Cell, who has Frieza's potential combined with his father, Piccolo, Goku and Vegeta, along with some other DNA.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#64597: Sep 22nd 2017 at 5:56:19 AM

We've been specifically told the special would be the START of the climax.

Now all we got to speculate is what "terrible" thing that's going to happen even is.

edited 22nd Sep '17 5:56:35 AM by Rinsankajugin

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#64598: Sep 22nd 2017 at 5:58:51 AM

So this will run into November.

edited 22nd Sep '17 5:59:42 AM by VeryMelon

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#64599: Sep 22nd 2017 at 7:34:27 AM

The problem with Goku staying in play after Jiren is because it makes him a Story-Breaker Power. Where's the tension when he's by far the strongest fighter? Well, besides those two hidden Universe 4 fighters being even stronger. Which means that Jiren is either going to exhaust most of his power and be a more reasonable SSB tier, or its a double K.O

Why are you talking as if there are going to be other fights after Jiren? Thus far, this is being hyped up as the climax of the tournament. Why are you assuming "Okay, I beat Jiren...now to deal with those other 20 people."

True enough, they could through a curve ball in, but what you talking about does not sound like a scenario I think anyone else is expecting.

And I'm really not sure what the point of the rest of your post was. What you think the characters can get stronger and that some have been underutilized? Okay then?

edited 22nd Sep '17 7:36:11 AM by LSBK

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