Yea, that's what I mean. The difference is that the Spirit Bomb was already a plot point that was simply referenced again and yea like you said, there wasn't much of an explanation on how or why Trunks did it.
But in terms of how they were used (Arc ending attacks that involved the entire population contributing), they were the same narratively speaking.
edited 5th Sep '17 9:30:01 PM by BlackYakuzu94
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.It's not that "modern", Part 3 of Jojo had a similar ending where the main character pulled a new ability out of his ass to beat the villain and that manga ran co-currently with Dragon Ball at the time.
Granted, it was the same ability as the villain and they did explain it, but still lol
edited 5th Sep '17 9:39:40 PM by BlackYakuzu94
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.I really wish they'd just revealed that Kaioshin called up King Kai and had him teach it to him, but I guess it wasn't in the outline (then again, that attack also wasn't in the outline, even if the Trunks cutting him in half thing was).
I actually like the attack: it's something we'd never seen before in the series (due to weapons not being very useful; every time we see a weapon that isn't the Nyoi-bo being used, it's quickly destroyed), and an interesting re-application of the Spirit Bomb concept.
I don't even care if it's more Modern Anime than the more old school thing DBZ is known for.
One Strip! One Strip!You know, if you watch that scene again, Trunks doesn't create the Spirit Bomb. He has no idea what it is and is baffled by its sudden appearance. In context, it's more like an honest-to-god miracle created out of the devotion of the remaining people to cheer on Trunks and their desire to help him win. If anyone specific starts its creation, it's those two kids.
It was definitely cheesy, but I still rather liked the actual technique.
Like most of you, I hated the execution (or at least the lack of a lead up to it).
That being said, I feel like Zamasu just murdering everybody is a weird meta commentary on what a load of bullshit it was.
One Strip! One Strip!I think the Spirit Sword being a "miracle" actually works in the plot, since miracles are generally thought to be caused by gods, and a divine miracle being the thing that finally down Zamasu would basically be the narrative spitting in his face that he is not the righteous being he thinks he is.
But... Wallpaper Zamasu kinda ruins that notion.
I will say Xenoverse 2 actually improved the Spirit Sword thing, by showing that Black ripped a hole in time itself with that scythe thing, and Trunks was getting energy not just from his ruined Earth, but also a bunch of characters in alternate timelines through that rift. Certainly goes a long way to explaining why it's so powerful.
edited 5th Sep '17 10:07:46 PM by DarkHunter
It is pretty hilarious how all of Zamasu's talk about the futility of mortals trying to oppose a god basically gets proven true, since the only way they were able to defeat him was to call Zen-o over.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!Ok lets see we have a bishie protagonist with a sword who barely looks worse for wear with a woman by his side faces an unstoppable threat and gets powered up by the hopes & dreams of a bunch of people namely some cute kids where he then totally kicks the guys ass.
Yeah its all those things that add into something most definitely not Dragon Ball.
edited 5th Sep '17 10:19:08 PM by slimcoder
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."It's also the lead up that makes them feel different. Dragonball being an ongoing series, Goku defeating Buu with the Spirit Bomb is a strengthened by the various times we've seen the Spirit Bomb used with increasing power yet not fully finish opponents. It's essentially a Chekhov's Boomerang - ending the final villain of the series with something that has been a recurring element in the audience's experience with it for some time.
But Super is a continuation made decades later, outside of that chain with a bit of its own identity going on. And everything related to Trunks and Zamasu is constrained to that specific arc because of it, even when its stuff that is from Z.
It's the downside to bringing a series years back after it's conclusion. You have to build up that sense of continuity (in the "I'm watching something that's continuously building upon what came before" sense, not the sense of being in or out of canon), something that Super hasn't always been too interested in.
edited 5th Sep '17 10:24:49 PM by KnownUnknown
Yeah its like when Goku used the spirit bomb he was being cheered on by every member of the cast, his friends, his family, his allies who we all got know in good depth over time & develop some connection. Its extremely heartwarming.
For Future Trunks...... honestly the only person who cheered him on that you give a shit about is Future Mai. Everyone else is fodder so it doesn't have the same feelzies.
Oh wait Yajirobe was there too that fatass.
edited 5th Sep '17 10:29:45 PM by slimcoder
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."![]()
Even before the Spirit Bomb, Trunks was putting up a bit of a fight against Fused Zamasu. Clearly, Zamasu's melting and ass-kicking by Vegetto had weakened him a lot more than he thought. The Spirit Bomb Sword just powered up Trunks enough to finish off his body.
edited 5th Sep '17 11:02:50 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Even in series where characters don't give a fuck about family DB does it better, just ask Fairy Tail.
edited 5th Sep '17 9:27:59 PM by slimcoder
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."