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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#63601: Sep 4th 2017 at 10:20:36 PM

There hasn't been anything about 18 getting stronger the way 17 did, but she's being treated as upper-mid tier as far a strength goes.

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#63602: Sep 4th 2017 at 10:20:36 PM

And because, y'know, he has the penis.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#63603: Sep 4th 2017 at 10:20:53 PM

17 got stronger by ranging the shit outta that park. tongue

edited 4th Sep '17 10:21:11 PM by slimcoder

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#63604: Sep 4th 2017 at 10:21:27 PM

Yeah it was only 17 who got stronger.

Plus 18 was left out of all the strength comments Toshio was making because who cares about her?

I'm amazed Kuririn didn't have her drop out of the tournament to make sure she'd have dinner ready for when he got back. Then they'd have a free spot to bring back Namu as a fighter, who debuts to one-shot Vegetto until Toshio retcons it.

edited 4th Sep '17 10:23:29 PM by Saiga

Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#63605: Sep 4th 2017 at 10:30:32 PM

Last I checked 18 effortlessly lifted that guy Base Goku could not. Presumably she has grown in strength. Unlike the other fighters she as well as 17 have no need to hold back at all and have more or less said they are going all out the whole time as they won't tire.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#63606: Sep 4th 2017 at 11:26:14 PM

Honestly, it seems like within the tournament itself, 18 and 17 have been given a similar amounted of gravity. Although, 18 has gotten so little focus, its hard to tell.

edited 4th Sep '17 11:26:44 PM by Zeromaeus

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
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#63607: Sep 5th 2017 at 5:39:53 AM

In regards to the whole Krillin/Frost thing:

I think Frost sucker punching Krillin was just meant to demonstrate how much of a Dirty Coward he is. As for him running away from #18, keep in mind he never fought her before so he didn't know how strong she was. I guess he didn't want to take any chances.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#63608: Sep 5th 2017 at 8:16:00 AM

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I could buy that. Considering the stakes, it's possible he's playing things carefully. He can't sense Ki anyway, but if he could, he'd have noted he couldn't sense 18's Ki, and that would make him cautious.

It's also likely that, after what happened with Goku, Vegeta, and even Piccolo (who did manage to get the drop on him and might have won if he hadn't cheated again) he's just being careful about anyone from universe 7 i.e. the universe that kicked his ass and wrecked his perfect system.

Or would you all rather prefer to just say it was just bad plotting? Cause that's also a fair assessment.

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#63609: Sep 5th 2017 at 11:30:09 AM

That, or Frost doesn't give the slightest fuck about Android 18.

Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#63610: Sep 5th 2017 at 11:58:46 AM

18 has gotten a good deal of focus Zero. She has also eliminated a good number of fighters.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#63611: Sep 5th 2017 at 12:06:33 PM

Spoiler time.

Episode 107-108

Episode 109

edited 5th Sep '17 12:07:11 PM by VeryMelon

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#63612: Sep 5th 2017 at 12:41:37 PM

So Gohan gets beat up and then Freeza betrays them and kicks him out? So much for that.

More importantly, Jiren finally decides to do something.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#63613: Sep 5th 2017 at 1:20:43 PM

I mean 18 hasn't gotten much solo focus. Her episode was Krillin's focus episode. Whereas 17 got an episode more or less to himself. So I would say they're both being treated as heavy hitters, 17 has been the only one of the two that got to have a moment like the artificial sun thing all to himself.

edited 5th Sep '17 1:21:08 PM by Zeromaeus

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#63614: Sep 5th 2017 at 1:27:06 PM

I can't even think of all of the reasons why using a Spirit Bomb in this tournament is a bad idea.

Though as a point of note, apparently those spoilers are from 2chan so take them with a grain of salt.

edited 5th Sep '17 1:30:52 PM by LordVatek

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#63615: Sep 5th 2017 at 1:45:38 PM

[up][up][up] The spoilers for 109 said Gohan is still in though.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#63616: Sep 5th 2017 at 1:47:00 PM

So if Freeza doesn't knock him out what does he do? Sounds like a lame betrayal if he can't even do that much.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#63617: Sep 5th 2017 at 1:49:09 PM

I believe the implication is that he's simply not going to help despite being in a position to do so.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#63618: Sep 5th 2017 at 1:50:55 PM

I know we can't trust the spoilers (even when they're real) but the way that was worded makes me expect that everyone thinks Freeza has betrayed them and then there's a twist where he hasn't actually done so and either faked it for some sort of plan or just to mess with them.

So he might end up gelping Gohan or something after pretending to betray them.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#63619: Sep 5th 2017 at 1:50:55 PM

These same spoilers were translated by Herms, so they're legit.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#63620: Sep 5th 2017 at 1:51:52 PM

Wow, Master of Evil at work. :|

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#63621: Sep 5th 2017 at 1:55:03 PM

You monster Frisbee!!

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#63622: Sep 5th 2017 at 1:55:06 PM

[up][up]You just wanted Gohan to get taken out didn't you[lol]

edited 5th Sep '17 1:55:30 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#63623: Sep 5th 2017 at 1:58:02 PM

You really overestimate the amounts of fucks I give about Gohan.

Actually I wanted Freeza to do something that would justify bringing him back and replacing Buu with him. So far he's done nothing of note so it feels like a waste.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#63624: Sep 5th 2017 at 2:02:03 PM

Yeah, but wouldn't betraying the team be the opposite of that?

Unless you mean from an out of universe perspective instead of an in universe one

In which case I'm torn. Freeza betraying everyone is obvious and shows just how insanely stupid the idea was, but Super always makes the characters look dumb and nothing will develop out of this blowing up in their face. So I half want Freeza to be helpful, just so that for once they don't look like insufferable morons for a decision they've made.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#63625: Sep 5th 2017 at 2:05:41 PM

Yeah, of course I meant from out of universe perspective.

Having Freeza play along and be helpful sounds like a complete misuse of character.

edited 5th Sep '17 2:06:45 PM by Shlugo_the_great


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