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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#63526: Sep 4th 2017 at 4:30:22 PM

It does treat them better in some ways, but worse in others - they get to do lots of heavy lifting and plot important stuff but their characterization heavily suffers.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#63527: Sep 4th 2017 at 4:32:16 PM

Goku has become a bit of a joke after all.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#63528: Sep 4th 2017 at 4:40:10 PM

I kinda agree that once he ran out of things to do with guys like Tien, it might have been better to just leave them out (of fights that is).

Tien likely should have been revealed to have started a dojo years ago; it's a better role for him than jumping into battle and getting stomped.

Still, when I think of how another character in the series who's been around longer than Tien has been treated throughout the series, I find it hard to buy this whole Toei is shitting on Tien idea (in fact, I lost interest in the video after a while).

Seriously, at least Tien is on the team. Yamcha didn't even get that. It's kinda silly to hear people complain about how Tien is treated when he's not the ultimate joke character...or Chiaoutzu, who no-one but Tien even cares about.

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#63529: Sep 4th 2017 at 4:42:24 PM

[up] Honestly, the only thing I would've changed about the episode is maybe have Tien be the one to take down Dr. Rota and Discount!Clayface before drawing with the Sniper. But either way, it'd still be the same end result. tongue

But don't you think that's a sign of laziness? I'm sure they can come up with ways to make them relevant if they seriously put the effort in.

I'm mean, kind of, but at the same time you also have to reach point where you accept the story for what it is.

edited 4th Sep '17 4:44:38 PM by Lionheart0

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#63530: Sep 4th 2017 at 4:43:48 PM

Can't see the video but the idea that Toriyama or Toei hates Ten is utterly absurd.

Just because he doesn't get an over-the-top fanservice episode to fellate him doesn't mean he's hated.

What he's done is already way beyond the scope of his role. He should have stayed in retirement.

[up] With Ten at least, I don't think it's laziness - it's logical that he would be phazed out. With the newer, more powerful characters who should really be involved in these things.... yeah it's laziness.

edited 4th Sep '17 4:45:58 PM by Saiga

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#63531: Sep 4th 2017 at 4:44:07 PM

I remember reading that in DBO, despite taking place, like, a hundred years in the future, Krillin and Tien are still alive and have become the new Turtle and Crane Hermits respectively.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#63532: Sep 4th 2017 at 4:46:46 PM

I don't think they're still alive, pretty sure only Piccolo survives to the period the game takes place and he is noticeably aged.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#63533: Sep 4th 2017 at 4:53:24 PM

Has he gotten huge like Guru did in his old age?

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#63534: Sep 4th 2017 at 4:55:15 PM

Wouldn't Buu still be alive too? He's millions of years old, what's few hundred more to him?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#63535: Sep 4th 2017 at 5:11:04 PM

Buu subdivided himself into the Majin race.

[up][up] nah just got wrinkles and discoloured skin

edited 4th Sep '17 5:11:20 PM by Saiga

Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#63536: Sep 4th 2017 at 5:18:00 PM

He split himself after reading smut.

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#63537: Sep 4th 2017 at 5:18:32 PM

Like, completely?

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#63538: Sep 4th 2017 at 5:20:38 PM

Yeah, it's part of the reason why the Majin race is playable in the first place; all those divisions needed to make the race brought their power down to the same level as the Humans (after knowledge of ki became common) and Namekians (who had to migrate to Earth after Mira blew up New Namek).

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#63539: Sep 4th 2017 at 5:22:53 PM

Ya know this is just me but I want the Trio De Dangers species to become a playable race just because I like wolves & the three of them each have nicely distinctive builds.

Anyone else agree with me? tongue

edited 4th Sep '17 5:23:07 PM by slimcoder

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#63540: Sep 4th 2017 at 5:30:03 PM

I wonder if the Humans will retain their newfound increased level of prominence even after the Tournament of Power ends. I just keep imagining Krillin beating Whis is a 1-v-1 during whatever arc it's revealed the Angels are evil.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#63541: Sep 4th 2017 at 5:34:41 PM

No way that happens. Whis is the main angel, he'd be reserved for Goku. Krillin would fight an angel from a different universe.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#63542: Sep 4th 2017 at 5:37:47 PM

Krillin beating any Angel just tells me things have gone horribly wrong.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#63543: Sep 4th 2017 at 5:42:12 PM

So...I just realized that 17 might actually be stronger than Super 17 now, thanks to the massive buff Super gave him.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#63544: Sep 4th 2017 at 5:42:50 PM

I'm pretty sure he could beat Sachiel, at least.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#63545: Sep 4th 2017 at 5:43:30 PM

I'd like to see a fusion of 17 & 18.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#63547: Sep 4th 2017 at 5:45:42 PM

[up][up] Pretty sure Dragon Ball: Fusions already did that.

[nja]'d

edited 4th Sep '17 5:46:03 PM by Zelenal

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#63548: Sep 4th 2017 at 5:46:32 PM

This is it.

edited 4th Sep '17 5:48:18 PM by LordVatek

This song needs more love.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#63549: Sep 4th 2017 at 5:47:02 PM

Ya but doesn't that include Super 17 too?

I mean just 17 & 18.

[up][up] Oh right yeah.

edited 4th Sep '17 5:47:29 PM by slimcoder

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#63550: Sep 4th 2017 at 5:47:42 PM

No, I'm pretty sure the Fusions one is just 17 and 18. They're called Android 1718.

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