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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#63476: Sep 4th 2017 at 4:48:30 AM

Nonsense, all we need are more characters spamming the same moves they've used in the past, more references to past events in Dragon Ball Z, and more reused animation.

Dare I say, this is Dragon Ball as you truly imagined it.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#63478: Sep 4th 2017 at 5:37:18 AM

It reminds me of how they use nostalgia in Sonic nowadays, just thrown in for the sake of it without proper understanding on why it's nostalgic.

This arc is jokes lol.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Awesomekid42 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
#63479: Sep 4th 2017 at 6:58:22 AM

Just saw the episode. Bit disappointed that Tien only took out one enemy while Krillin and Roshi took out three in the episodes where it was their time to shine, but the episode was overall pretty solid. The game of cat and mouse and the strategies on both sides reminded me of a JoJo fight.

edited 4th Sep '17 7:00:07 AM by Awesomekid42

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#63480: Sep 4th 2017 at 7:57:42 AM

Again I gotta ask couldnt Tien just have reformed as one dude still on the arena considering 3 of his clones were there? And then take down the laser dude. Did he really need to use all 3 clones to drag laser guy down too

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#63481: Sep 4th 2017 at 8:57:28 AM

Yup, and guess who took the shot for him?

I mean, how else can you hammer in how much a better dad than Goku he is? Because apparently that's the only part of his character people actually find interesting; a version of his relationship with Gohan that either never existed or changed fairly quickly.

That being said, I'm actually not as down on this arc (or at least the tournament) as some of you are. I largely agree that the problems you say are there are there, but I think there have been some cool bits here and there. And to be fair, it isn't over yet, so precedent aside, I'm not going to call it a total wash yet.

edited 4th Sep '17 8:58:49 AM by LSBK

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#63482: Sep 4th 2017 at 9:03:17 AM

I mean, how else can you hammer in how much a better dad than Goku he is? Because apparently that's the only part of his character people actually find interesting; a version of his relationship with Gohan that either never existed or changed fairly quickly.

Ohhhh no. We are not opening up that can of worms again.

Though for what it's worth, I do remember Piccolo saying at least once that Gohan taught him the value of having a friend.

No beer?! But if there's no beer, then there's no beef or beans!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#63483: Sep 4th 2017 at 9:05:51 AM

I mean, whether you actually believe that or not, I think it's kind of hard to argue against the idea that that's what Super is doing with Piccolo. Though it gets a bit confusing when they also try and play up Gohan's and Goku's relationship a fair bit. As the discussion was going, I think it's more about pandering to nostalgia than anything else.

But, friendship doesn't amount to fatherhood, and I'm pretty sure that was filler (or padding) anyway.

edited 4th Sep '17 9:09:03 AM by LSBK

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#63484: Sep 4th 2017 at 9:25:20 AM

I think you just have a different definition of what makes someone a dad than other people. No need to complain about it all the time.

Again I gotta ask couldnt Tien just have reformed as one dude still on the arena considering 3 of his clones were there? And then take down the laser dude. Did he really need to use all 3 clones to drag laser guy down too

I don't think he can reform as any one of them, just the original.

edited 4th Sep '17 9:26:55 AM by Moth13

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#63486: Sep 4th 2017 at 9:28:48 AM

[up][up]Except I wasn't complaining about that specifically, I was mentioning how Super just shoehorns it in all the time. Like I said, even if you like it, I feel like that shouldn't be a controversial statement. It's just a thing Super is doing, like being inconsistent with absolute and relative strength levels.

Or that people just have warped ideas of what a good "dad" is, but this is anime so that's expected.

edited 4th Sep '17 9:31:32 AM by LSBK

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#63487: Sep 4th 2017 at 9:35:34 AM

While this arc has flaws, there have been a lot of good moments, so it's not like I haven't been enjoying it at all.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#63488: Sep 4th 2017 at 9:53:53 AM

But speaking of Piccolo, where does he get knocked out on that ending credits theory? Think he'll finish those two Namekians off, get dragged down with him, or take the bullet for Gohan again and get blasted off?

Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#63489: Sep 4th 2017 at 9:57:54 AM

What if he fuses with those two Namekians and stays on much longer?

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#63490: Sep 4th 2017 at 9:58:37 AM

I've mentioned that possibility before. it would certainly be, something.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#63491: Sep 4th 2017 at 10:22:15 AM

I'm watching that "Japan Doesn't Like Tien" video right now, and I actually find the usage of Tien pretty funny in light of how the other weak character were used. Plauge Of Gripes made his point well, but I personally don't mind it.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#63492: Sep 4th 2017 at 11:13:05 AM

BUT IT'S OK CUZ IT'S NOSTALGIC RIGHT?

That's the real reason Goku doesn't spend time with Gohan, its bad for his life expectancy.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#63493: Sep 4th 2017 at 12:10:34 PM

After watching the whole video, I have one thing to ask...

When did Plauge start doing youtube videos?

XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#63494: Sep 4th 2017 at 12:24:26 PM

[up] I was wondering the same thing. Time for some bingeing...

Also, did I miss something regarding Goku not being able to use Instant Transmission towards to an uncharged Prum and uses physical force? Like, the scene with him and Vegeta hurling rocks was funny enough, but they didn't seem to have exhausted all of their options.

Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#63495: Sep 4th 2017 at 1:25:30 PM

[up][up][up]Spending time with Vegeta is even worse.

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#63496: Sep 4th 2017 at 1:35:27 PM

I know a lot of people rag on '10s culture for being pretty much nothing but Millennial nostalgia (with revivals of stuff like Star Wars, Power Rangers, DB, even Mystery Science Theater) but honestly I see a kind of tragedy in it. Millennials are now grown up and pretty miserable now that we've realized how much the deck was stacked against us. We pay so much for nostalgia because we take refuge in it.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#63497: Sep 4th 2017 at 1:37:31 PM

What does that have to do with anything?

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#63498: Sep 4th 2017 at 1:38:38 PM

People were talking about how Super is just nostalgia and nothing else; I was pointing out how a lot of things are these days, and my theory as to why this is.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#63499: Sep 4th 2017 at 1:46:26 PM

Man is that video sad, I mean poor Tien. sad

Seriously the dude is one respectable motherfucker, he honestly deserves better than this shit show.

edited 4th Sep '17 1:46:35 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#63500: Sep 4th 2017 at 1:51:55 PM

It reminds me of how they use nostalgia in Sonic nowadays, just thrown in for the sake of it without proper understanding on why it's nostalgic. This arc is jokes lol.

That makes sense to me. Green Hill Zone gets shoved into almost every Sonic game despite that there being some fans who started off with other Sonic games other than Sonic 1. Super tries to do a similar thing by 'fixing' some of the characterization (For example Goku with his being a 'Superman' character by making him even more of a jerk), randomly making their characters strong, with almost no explanation, etc. but it seems lack the spirit of the original to the point where even those fans that started with Dragon Ball Funi dub or even TFS can notice something has changed.

wild mass guess Dragon Ball Super is a deconstruction of the Franchise Zombie where it gives what we believed we wanted but subverting those same tropes and revealing how our demands affect the series.wild mass guess

Or it could be that Super is just capitalizing on our nostalgia for sales.

Edit: The Plauge comes up with good points about Tien and it does explain a lot of things.

edited 4th Sep '17 1:54:15 PM by GAP

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