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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#63326: Sep 2nd 2017 at 7:13:58 PM

Looks like next episode is Maji Kayo vs Dyspo and Jiren, and Vegeta and Roshi vs Magetta and Frost. Looks like I called it about Maji Kayo being U3's strongest fighter.

This episode was good, Tenshinhan went out like a boss, and Dr Rota getting eliminated without getting to show off was humorously anticlimactic. Both U2 enemies also had pretty neat gimmicks, though I question the naturalness of Hermila's sniper arms.

edited 2nd Sep '17 7:19:30 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#63327: Sep 2nd 2017 at 7:20:53 PM

[up][up][up]So basically every conflict in Super ever?

edited 2nd Sep '17 7:21:12 PM by Hobgoblin

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#63328: Sep 2nd 2017 at 7:25:17 PM

Considering what the Multi-Form actually does, I can't help but think that if Tenshinhan just went at it whole and at full strength he would have been able to catch the guy anyway, and probably wouldn't have been eliminated.

As far as coming up with reasons to use the characters iconic moves despite their obvious downsides, this wasn't satisfactory.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#63329: Sep 2nd 2017 at 7:25:44 PM

So, looks like the elimination ending theory is back on track.

Incoming Vegeta job?

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#63330: Sep 2nd 2017 at 7:28:34 PM

For as much of a reputation that Vegeta has for getting beaten by the villains to make them look tough, he does have a pretty impressive track record when it comes to fighting. He's typically the first character to actually make the major villains sweat when he fights them.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#63331: Sep 2nd 2017 at 7:39:04 PM

I thought it made sense. Tenshinhan wouldn't have been able to dodge or tank the sniper beams by himself anyways, so he split himself up to make sure at least one of him got there.

Also, if the ending theory is true, than the order of eliminations is Krillin, Tenshinhan, Vegeta, 18, 17, Piccolo, Roshi, Freeza, Goku, then Gohan. I don't see Roshi lasting that long.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#63332: Sep 2nd 2017 at 7:39:53 PM

Yeah, sounds like Roshi's going to be the next out anyways.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#63333: Sep 2nd 2017 at 7:42:34 PM

[up][up]I know what the explanation was. I'm saying what they showed didn't make it seem like that was necessary. At all.

Basically it comes off more as a hastily made up excuse to get him to use the Multi-Form than a situation that legitimately called for it.

edited 2nd Sep '17 7:45:06 PM by LSBK

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#63334: Sep 2nd 2017 at 7:45:04 PM

Those beams were powerful enough to shoot off Piccolo's arms. Tenshinhan would've gone down to one of those if he didn't use Multiform.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#63335: Sep 2nd 2017 at 7:46:48 PM

That's only assuming he'd actually get him. Which I don't buy, the clones being hit liked that seemed more for tension than anything else really. And also they just got back up at then so...

But, yeah, focusing so much on Gohan and Piccolo at the beginning really did seem pointless considering they contributed nothing to actually taking the two down. Even Tenshinhan's "contribution" feels more as just a pity bone thrown to him than anything actually meaningful.

edited 2nd Sep '17 7:49:18 PM by LSBK

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#63336: Sep 2nd 2017 at 7:50:03 PM

Ten episodes in and sixteen minutes have elapsed. The more things change the more they stay the same. tongue

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#63337: Sep 2nd 2017 at 7:51:36 PM

[up][up]Well, yeah, so did Dr Rota. Those were not killing shots. They were also definitely travelling fast enough that there's no way Tenshinhan could've dodged them.

edited 2nd Sep '17 7:52:11 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#63338: Sep 2nd 2017 at 7:52:52 PM

I mean, I could go on, but I think we all already know how these discussions tend to go so...

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#63339: Sep 2nd 2017 at 7:54:31 PM

Tien's fanboys are quite pleased with today's episode, from what I've seen.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#63340: Sep 2nd 2017 at 7:55:55 PM

I thought it was pretty clever. Multi-form divides his strength and speed but now he has a ton more eyes that work just as well, which lets him follow the sniper.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#63341: Sep 2nd 2017 at 7:56:06 PM

[up][up]Really? I've seen them bitching that he got shafted more than anything else.

edited 2nd Sep '17 7:56:23 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#63342: Sep 2nd 2017 at 7:58:05 PM

I think that would all depend on what you went in expecting him to be capable of accomplishing anyway.

edited 2nd Sep '17 7:58:24 PM by LSBK

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#63343: Sep 2nd 2017 at 7:59:39 PM

[up][up][up]

I recall he was using the same strategy for the Multiform back when he had his re-match with Goku (though the extra bodies were supposed to be a plus, it's just that he was taking on Goku, so it ended up being useless).

As for Tien fanboys celebrating vs saying he got shafted, I suppose you could see it either way. I'll just more thoroughly after I watch the episode.

Edit: Pretty much [up].

edited 2nd Sep '17 8:00:07 PM by HandsomeRob

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#63344: Sep 2nd 2017 at 8:01:09 PM

[up][up][up]The ones I know personally are happy with what they got. I should also mention they like to get into Tien vs. Krillin debates all the time, so what they really cared about was Tien doing better than Krillin.

edited 2nd Sep '17 8:02:11 PM by VeryMelon

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#63345: Sep 2nd 2017 at 8:03:32 PM

Krillin took out three guys!

Two as assists, and one directly.

Tien only stopped one dude. So how exactly did he do better?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#63346: Sep 2nd 2017 at 8:04:01 PM

Oh...but there's not even a direct comparison that can be made here. Lasting longer doesn't mean he's stronger. But I'm assuming logic doesn't factor much into it.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#63348: Sep 2nd 2017 at 8:06:18 PM

I swear to god, if I didn't actually like Tien...

...but I'm not letting dudes like that ruin him for him. Hating a character to spite their fans is one of the worst reasons to hate a character.

I'll be watching the ep soon myself.

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#63349: Sep 2nd 2017 at 8:16:38 PM

Okay, so, to clarify: is there an actual episode next week, or do we wait two?

Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#63350: Sep 2nd 2017 at 8:16:44 PM

I actually would like it if Vegeta gets eliminated early on. He has been a bit too arrogant this Tournament and half the fun of Vegeta is watching him getting beat up.


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