If that's the case then that means things like reviving Freeza would be impossible since doing so would indirectly lead to a lot of deaths.
No, that's not done for the purpose of killing people, and even if it were it's still not making the dragon do the killing.
The Dragons are sentient and could apply their own judgement - even if you were reviving someone to have them kill another person, that's none of the dragon's business. But asking the dragon to wish away the Saiyan's spacepods or send them into the sun/an asteroid is totally making the dragon kill them.
That's a good point, but it's never stated that the dragon can't kill anyone, and the one time it's tried, they ran head first into the stronger than my greater, plz nerf issue.
Saying the dragon can't kill anyone (or grant an indirect wish that results in someone's death) would have made a lot of sense, but like many things, I'm thinking Toriyama didn't think of it.
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No, I was saying the dragons should have originally been written with that moral limitation to prevent the Fridge Logic of being able to abuse them.
I think turning the Earth invisible would cause a lot of problems to everyone on the Earth.
By the way, I'm fine now, I drank a literal gallon of water throughout the day and now I'm able to properly react to Yamcha in Fighterz. Yay, Yamcha's in Fighterz! Hopefully if he's playable they do some cool things with his Wolf Fang Fist and Spirit Ball.
Spoiler: He's the real Big Bad and final boss of the game.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!Even though he created the machines that the Red Ribbon used to hurt a lot of people.
He was kinda a criminal, so going after him and taking him to the police to lock away forever would have saved them a lot of trouble, if Vegeta didn't have to satisfy his pride boner, or Goku used his brain.
One Strip! One Strip!His very first move was to kill the fuck out of the only guy who could stop him.
So yeah, extremely effective. He also chose a really good way to do it that gave him long term benefits.
Then he teamed up with the only dude who he knew would not only go along with his plans, but he could trust not to betray him.
...I mean, I'm sure he mad some mistakes, because everyone does, but I can't think of any.
One Strip! One Strip!Indeed, though the anime kinda glosses over it, I think the manga was explicit that Zamasu had killed ALL the gods in ALL the universes, and was genociding everything else. In that case, the universes of that timeline were empty of (intelligent) life, and he when he went all Skybox he was spilling over into other timelines as well.
So erasing that timeline at that point does make sense... there's nothing left to save.
How the hell Zen'O (or at the very least the Grand Priest) missed someone going around committing mass deicide is beyond me, though. I know he's kind of hands-off for the most part, but if ANYTHING should get his attention, it's that.
Check the manga. Zeno doesn't really think about repairing or creating anything new, he just destroys what he doesn't like. The Gods of Destruction are balanced by a Kaioshin who is pretty much a God of Creation, but Zeno is unbalanced and solves problems by destroying stuff.
Needs to be educated, and needs to learn a different way of solving conflict. But what better than an equal to learn to disagree?
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In the manga, as bad as Zamasu was, I'm not sure if he was enough of a threat to justify destroying the entire universe.
In the anime, he was a mindless, hate filled, bodiless Eldritch Abomination that was threatening to leak into other timelines that pretty much left nuking it the only option.
In the manga, he was just an army of me.
But Zen-O has no sense of scale. He doesn't like something, he just destroys it.
One Strip! One Strip!Granted, that army of Zamasu might have also had Time Rings for all of them, meaning you got a slowly growing horde of immortal monsters with complete access to every timeline, and every universe in them. Hell, if we're going off of Xenoverse 2, he could have gotten into the Time Nest as well...
Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!

They mention just using the wish to locate him, then going and killing him before the Androids are ready.
Anyway, with indirect wishes it's hard to say what would actually work, it'd be pure guesswork and I'm sure another reason would come up for why it wouldn't work.
It's a pretty obvious hole, I think the dragons (being fairly benevolent) should have just had a moral code against killing/interferring with others and would refuse to allow even indirect wishes that would do that.