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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#63176: Aug 28th 2017 at 12:26:45 PM

I kinda hoped for him to be an epic superhero.

Like a more serious Superman.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#63177: Aug 28th 2017 at 12:28:19 PM

[up][up][up] So was Hit, but he actually has a personality.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#63178: Aug 28th 2017 at 12:29:11 PM

I kind of hope he ends up being one giant red herring who jobs in order to set up a conflict outside of the tournament.

This song needs more love.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#63179: Aug 28th 2017 at 12:30:46 PM

Sure, the Battle Royal isn't doing much for me anyway.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#63180: Aug 28th 2017 at 12:35:54 PM

Honestly, I'd probably be disappointed if this just ends up being all to hype up Goku's new form and nothing more.

It'd be like a worse version of the U6 arc.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#63181: Aug 28th 2017 at 12:38:52 PM

Hmmh maybe I expected too much.

Especially when the Japanese portrayal of superheroes are rather different from how Americans go by it.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#63182: Aug 28th 2017 at 12:39:27 PM

Even a new form is going to feel pointless if it's just another vaque "he's stronger, but still not close to the Gods of Destruction or Angels" deal.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#63183: Aug 28th 2017 at 12:41:53 PM

He'll probably trash SSB Kaioken x 10 before being owned by the new form.

[up]Yeah, at this point it makes less and less sense that SSG Goku even gave Beerus an enjoyable fight if he was still so much weaker that Beerus could one shot him.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#63184: Aug 28th 2017 at 12:43:32 PM

[up][up][up]I always wondered what you liked about Jiren after all this time.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#63185: Aug 28th 2017 at 12:47:55 PM

[up] Heh yeah that's the reason why. tongue

As you can see by my page I got pretty hyped for him.

Though it was more for excitement over the assumption that Goku was gonna be facing off against Japanese Superman with all that entails such as a fitting personality.

I feel rather embarrassed now.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#63186: Aug 28th 2017 at 12:48:23 PM

I think there's still plenty of time to give Jiren personality.

This special is only the beginning of climax, not actually the grande finale itself. At least, that's what I think what's happening. We'll still have episodes after the special. I think Goku vs Jiren get spread out 4 to 5 episodes. With other minor fights happening until those two are the only ones left.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#63187: Aug 28th 2017 at 12:50:06 PM

He liked his ideal image of him that he fabricated, since there was so much about him to speculate due to how little we knew about him.

The air of mystery gave the illusion he was interesting.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#63188: Aug 28th 2017 at 12:51:24 PM

[up] Huh wow that is a very good way of putting it.

Yeah that is exactly what happened with me. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#63189: Aug 28th 2017 at 12:56:01 PM

If it's any justice for Jiren, I like his design 10x more than Hit's, but I never really liked Hit to begin with..

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#63190: Aug 28th 2017 at 1:05:25 PM

That's not exactly saying much, but I agree.

[up][up] there's nothing wrong with speculating and being exited for that, but it's just that, speculation.

edited 28th Aug '17 1:05:52 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#63191: Aug 28th 2017 at 1:16:01 PM

[up] Indeed.

Its just sad when the speculation appears better than the actual thing.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#63192: Aug 28th 2017 at 1:44:43 PM

He is another strong guy Goku needs to beat . That's pretty much all there is to him.

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He liked his ideal image of him that he fabricated, since there was so much about him to speculate due to how little we knew about him. The air of mystery gave the illusion he was interesting.

See the above quote, he is just there to make Goku look better by comparison.

edited 28th Aug '17 1:44:56 PM by GAP

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#63193: Aug 28th 2017 at 1:50:00 PM

[up]I meant that as far as this tournament goes, he's the strong guy Goku needs to beat. Everyone else is just a speed-bump, Jiren is the roadblock to victory.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#63194: Aug 28th 2017 at 1:51:45 PM

IIRC Toriyama said he has no intention of having the main characters surpass the Destruction Gods and Angels. I feel like that's going to strain credibility after a while.

edited 28th Aug '17 1:51:51 PM by HamburgerTime

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#63195: Aug 28th 2017 at 1:53:56 PM

He's said he had no plans for that happening for a while and he said it some time ago already.

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#63196: Aug 28th 2017 at 2:07:03 PM

[up]

I think that's been extended ever since the in-series change of power level metaphor used by Whis (see comparing Goku and Beerus to trees).

Also didn't it take a while before people got a better grasp of Hit's personality? I'd expect the same to happen to Jiren. Personally, I keep on hearing Kenshiro due to his VA. >_>

edited 28th Aug '17 2:08:45 PM by MyssaRei

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#63197: Aug 28th 2017 at 2:16:07 PM

[up][up]

Yeah, he said that a while ago, and not only that, but there's already the precedent of a mortal surpassing a God of Destruction. So it's not too far fetched to say that Goku might be stronger than Beerus soon. Or at least his near equal.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#63198: Aug 28th 2017 at 2:27:23 PM

[up][up]It's wasn't a comparison between Goku and Beerus so much as Goku and Divine Power. I assumed it was supposed to be foreshadowing Super Saiyan Blue, not saying Goku will never reach that point.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#63199: Aug 28th 2017 at 2:27:54 PM

I assumed that Whis mentioning a mortal stronger than god of destruction was a foreshadowing that Goku reaching that level isn't far off.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#63200: Aug 28th 2017 at 2:29:19 PM

A lot of people assume that Jiren is said mortal.


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