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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#63026: Aug 25th 2017 at 4:59:42 PM

As of Super, he's finally killed Frieza too, but you are right. I got those two confused.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#63027: Aug 25th 2017 at 5:09:06 PM

This fandom tends to only care about solo wins against the Big Bad.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#63028: Aug 25th 2017 at 5:10:01 PM

That's kinda the most important battles.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#63029: Aug 25th 2017 at 5:11:00 PM

Even in the movies, Goku does barely get a break.

"Mai waifu."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#63030: Aug 25th 2017 at 5:39:33 PM

This fandom tends to only care about solo wins against the Big Bad.

That's because team battles are pretty rare, and only tend to happen when it's the weaker characters, or when it's not really going to accomplish anything.

And Goku himself doesn't really seem to be much of a team player. It takes a pretty desperate situation for him to consider fighting with a two (or more) on one advantage, or taking outside help during a fight.

Hell, first chance he got during this tournament, he immediately flew off to fight on his own rather than staying together as a group like Gohan had tried to plan.

As Raditz proved, he can be convinced to team up with someone, but given the choice in the matter, he'd choose to fight one on one every time, so it's not a shock the fandom tends to overlook that stuff when The Hero does as well.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#63031: Aug 25th 2017 at 5:50:58 PM

Excluding his victory against Buu just because it was a team effort feels a little cheap, though. He still did the heavy lifting on that one.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#63032: Aug 25th 2017 at 5:58:00 PM

He stood with his hands up while Vegeta was getting beaten bloody. Heavy lifting my ass.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#63033: Aug 25th 2017 at 6:33:46 PM

This fandom tends to only care about solo wins against the Big Bad.

Which is ironic given Goku's reputation as a Boring Invincible Hero in the fandom.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#63034: Aug 25th 2017 at 6:35:51 PM

The fandom as a whole have a lot of misconceptions about the series. Some is because of bad dubbing, others is just plain old fans not paying attention or being bitter that their favorite character doesn't get to do everything.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#63035: Aug 25th 2017 at 6:57:36 PM

[up][up]Kinda feels like you're conflating different opinions as being part of the same group.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#63036: Aug 25th 2017 at 7:45:43 PM

That's why I said "reputation" and didn't claim it was an absolute fact.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#63037: Aug 25th 2017 at 8:28:06 PM

He only lost to Freeza because of a cheap shot, so I wouldn't discount his victory as a cheap shot there.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#63038: Aug 25th 2017 at 8:39:06 PM

A cheap shot and some bullshit which is now apparently canon.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#63039: Aug 25th 2017 at 8:40:30 PM

It being a cheap shot matters less to me than the fact that it shouldn't have worked. But apparently Super is going with stuff like that being able to work on the characters now so what can you do.

Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#63040: Aug 25th 2017 at 8:49:57 PM

Speaking of bad dubbing, in the Big Green Dub, Future Piccolo Big Green is the only one who dies, while everyone else survives, even though it shows them being killed.

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#63041: Aug 25th 2017 at 9:18:08 PM

[up] You just reminded me of my first exposure to the Big Green dub through Phelous recently. Canada's insistence on strictly funding and promoting homegrown content is both a blessing and a curse :

     Review of Big Green's Strongest Guy In The World 

As a side note, he also did a (more positive) review of The Path to Power:

     Review Of The Path to Power 

[down] Admittedly, he has a very "acquired taste" standard to his reviewing style. Never put on headphones.

edited 25th Aug '17 9:32:21 PM by XMenMutant22

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#63042: Aug 25th 2017 at 9:21:32 PM

If only it wasn't Phelous.

My various fanfics.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#63043: Aug 25th 2017 at 9:23:44 PM

So now the full version of Limit Break X Survivor is out, someone went and translated the lyrics.

here.

What's interesting is that while the first verse is clearly a reference to Goku's excitement for the tournament. The second verse takes on a completely different tone.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#63044: Aug 25th 2017 at 9:24:53 PM

Potentially there's another guy who reviews bad dubs of dubs.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#63045: Aug 25th 2017 at 9:33:32 PM

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Did Goku just say Even the God of Destruction looks puny?

Holy shit! What's this new power-up gonna do to him exactly?

There does seem to be a bit of an implication that after years of trying to top himself, this time he's gonna completely transcend all his known limitations.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#63046: Aug 25th 2017 at 9:44:08 PM

Thanks for the translation of the lyrics. The second part is VERY interesting, so let's see if I can make sense of it. Based on the first part, the song seems to be from Goku's perspective, which puts the second part under an interesting lens.

Based on the context of the lyrics, I think Goku's going to get eliminated. All the lyrics referring to 'you' are most likely Goku giving a rousing speech to pump up Gohan, who appears to have fallen into depression (probably because of all the omnicide). Gohan takes a bad hit and gets back up, surprising Goku who thought he was down. Gohan exceeds all expectations and grows immensely more powerful, winning the tournament and explicitly surpassing Beerus in the process. Given how the focus shifts here from 'you' back to 'I', it looks like Goku's not done yet, and he's still trying to break through his limits. Considering how the last line comes after "the climax scene", saying that even Zen-Oh Sama's going to be blown away feels less like a promise of great entertainment here and more like a direct threat.

If this song is any indication of how this arc is going to end, it's going to be intense and dramatic.

edited 25th Aug '17 9:45:21 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#63047: Aug 25th 2017 at 11:12:48 PM

So you're telling me that Gohan is the Limit Break x Survivor :V

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#63048: Aug 25th 2017 at 11:22:49 PM

Maybe, if that term actually means anything related to what's implied by its parts.

By the way, my evidence for the focus character being Gohan is:

The use of 'you' indicates that it's not Goku and it's someone he's talking to.

"Think back to the good old days" someone Goku is very close with.

"Light that fire inside of you" it's fucking Gohan.

"Break through the sadness" it's fucking Gohan.

"Because you're a warrior, too!" it's totally fucking Gohan.

edited 25th Aug '17 11:23:37 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#63049: Aug 25th 2017 at 11:28:29 PM

Being a retread of the Cell arc isn't too out of the question.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#63050: Aug 25th 2017 at 11:57:23 PM

You know, I was literally thinking of that; Gohan would be two for two for stepping up to center stage during a tournament that the fate of the world's existence depends on.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!

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