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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#62926: Aug 23rd 2017 at 6:26:19 PM

Apparently, he's been training off-screen the whole time and now he's as strong as Namek Freeza.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#62927: Aug 23rd 2017 at 6:29:30 PM

Don't think about it and just enjoy the show.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#62928: Aug 23rd 2017 at 6:31:15 PM

I like that advice.

Now, once the show is over, feel free to rake them over the coals, but until then...

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#62929: Aug 23rd 2017 at 6:51:52 PM

It's pretty hard to explain, but we did kinda see some of the results of his off-screen training during the Resurrection F Saga, where Roshi was fighting Frieza Soldiers who should have been at the very least 100x stronger than Roshi's last recorded powerlevel. (which was 139 btw)

Though, IIRC, there was one interview back during the RF movie came out where Toriyama jokingly said that Roshi's powerlevel was around 75,000 or so.

RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#62930: Aug 23rd 2017 at 6:54:53 PM

Well, that makes sense. It's just that with Tien and Krillin, we at least knew that they were still training, while with Roshi, I just assumed he was retired, or that he'd decided he was too old for this world-saving nonsense. Good for him. The man's 300 years old or something and he's still stronger than Yamcha.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#62931: Aug 23rd 2017 at 7:22:59 PM

I dunno, Yamcha was pretty cool in the baseball episode.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#62932: Aug 23rd 2017 at 8:25:57 PM

[up][up]Stronger than who?

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RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#62933: Aug 23rd 2017 at 8:42:08 PM

[up] Oh, you know, the guy Gohan stole all his hairdos from.

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Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#62934: Aug 23rd 2017 at 9:02:25 PM

[up][up]I think they mean that weird guy whose apartment we kept seeing for some reason. Idk what he has to do with anything really.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#62935: Aug 23rd 2017 at 9:31:32 PM

I was confused when you brought up apartment...but then I remembered to look it up, so now it's better.

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Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#62936: Aug 24th 2017 at 12:28:20 AM

Roshi is not really fighting directly here. More just using weird moves.

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#62937: Aug 24th 2017 at 2:09:03 AM

He focuses more on tactics.

That said, the regular Freeza soldiers aren't that strong. Some of them relied on blasters instead of Ki blast.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#62938: Aug 24th 2017 at 3:10:58 AM

Info on episode 106 is out! Gohan and Piccolo fight Dr. Rota, who is then shot down by an unknown fighter. Even Tien and Vegeta are having trouble with this "invisible" fighter!

Also, it seems there'll be two hour-long DBS/OP specials after episode 106. That's why the show is going on a break for a bit.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#62939: Aug 24th 2017 at 3:11:43 AM

Even Tenshinhan?! Oh no!

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MsCC93 Since: May, 2012
#62940: Aug 24th 2017 at 4:25:53 AM

Okay. So I'm reading the digital Dragonball manga, and I'm on the Red Ribbon Part. I'm at the part when Commander Red rants on how he wished he was taller.

While it seemed petty, don't you guys think he had a point on how badly short men are treated??

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#62941: Aug 24th 2017 at 4:30:43 AM

Probably lost the moral high ground when he started killing people

Though I'd hesitate to call any ground high with him on top it.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#62942: Aug 24th 2017 at 4:34:46 AM

[up][up] Short men aren't treated badly outside of places where "cuck" is an usual word. And the standards used by the people there are toxic, baseless and removed from constructivity.

It was a gag.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#62943: Aug 24th 2017 at 6:29:03 AM

Even Tenshinhan?! Oh no!

Even Speedwagon is afraid!

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#62944: Aug 24th 2017 at 7:27:23 AM

Short men aren't treated badly outside of places where "cuck" is an usual word.

[up][up] You sure about that?

edited 24th Aug '17 7:27:38 AM by TyeDyeWildebeest

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#62945: Aug 24th 2017 at 7:42:15 AM

Even Tenshinhan?! Oh no!

What will the team do if even Tenshinhan can't handle it!

[up]I guess some people just refuse to... lower their standards.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#62946: Aug 24th 2017 at 8:59:13 AM

Interesting that they're using the invisible fighters at the same time as Dr. Rota. Looks like one of them will be fighting Gohan and Piccolo until Tenshinhan steps in to help them and the other one will be fighting Vegeta. Kind of wish Rota got more screentime, but maybe his short fight will be good, who knows.

Both Red and Black had a point. Red in that the Red Ribbon Army was already the most powerful military force on Earth and capable of taking over the world through conventional means, and why not use the Dragon Balls for something truly miraculous and otherwise impossible? Black in that using the Dragon Balls for such a petty thing was dumb and short-sighted, especially when world domination has never been further from reach, what with the little monkey boy systematically destroying all of their forces.

edited 24th Aug '17 9:04:43 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

MsCC93 Since: May, 2012
#62947: Aug 24th 2017 at 9:48:55 AM

[up] The funny thing was that I was going to bitch about an apparent double standard regarding the use of the Dragonballs. I was going to ask "how come Bulma isn't vilified for wanting to use the Dragonballs to wish for a perfect boyfriend?

Then I answered my own question: Because Bulma didn't put other people's lives at risks, didn't hire an assassin with literally zero redeeming qualities, and didn't have a shitload of mooks to do it.

Really, I would have been more sympathetic with commander Red had he not been so evil to the point of hiring an assassin to kill a 12-year old boy.

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#62949: Aug 24th 2017 at 10:08:30 AM

In self defense. >_>

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#62950: Aug 24th 2017 at 10:14:04 AM

Both Red and Black had a point. Red in that the Red Ribbon Army was already the most powerful military force on Earth and capable of taking over the world through conventional means, and why not use the Dragon Balls for something truly miraculous and otherwise impossible?

This is true. The power of the original army was completely ridiculous considering that the regular military was completely helpless against them. If Red hadn't wanted to go for such a dumb wish, they'd have conquered the world already. At the same time, there was some slightly twisted logic in Red's actions. He could lead the most powerful army in the world, and by proxy, be the most powerful man on the planet (in terms of political power) but if people just looked at him and saw some stupid little short man, then it would mean nothing. Of course, this is due entirely to his own lack of self esteem, but still. In a world where Goku never existed, his wish would have been inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. He could have been able to afford making such a frivolous request.

Black in that using the Dragon Balls for such a petty thing was dumb and short-sighted, especially when world domination has never been further from reach, what with the little monkey boy systematically destroying all of their forces.

This is also true, but as we all remember, after killing Red, Black then promptly forgot his own advice right up until the moment he saw Goku kick a missile away, and by that time it was far too late. That's always annoyed me; why does he suddenly try and continue a battle that he himself had been saying was pointless due to Goku being far too strong. He made the switch so damned quickly too. I can only determine that Toriyama just had him suddenly flip like that because he was determined to get rid of the army now that they had served their purpose.

Because Bulma didn't put other people's lives at risks, didn't hire an assassin with literally zero redeeming qualities, and didn't have a shitload of mooks to do it.

She did kind trick Goku into letting her use his 4 star ball, despite knowing it would fly away once the wishes were made. She also forced Oolong to join them and made him a slave...though Oolong's no saint either, but still, not a particularly nice thing to do.

Really, I would have been more sympathetic with commander Red had he not been so evil to the point of hiring an assassin to kill a 12-year old boy.

Well, you're not supposed to be sympathetic to Red in the first place, but we have to remember, Goku was no ordinary kid (he'd mopped the floor with a number of Red Ribbon soldiers well before the assassin came in, and some of them, like Blue were quite formidable in their own right. So, still a horrible thing to do, but when you are dealing with Son Goku, an assassin is the best option you have.

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