Do you question his motives when Superman shows up to fight a villain who's threatening you saying "don't worry, citizen, I'll save you"? If someone introduces themself as something not outside the boundary of reason, I'm 100% going to believe them unless given any evidence otherwise, and neither the Pride Troopers nor the Kamikaze Fireballs have given any evidence otherwise.
You can just use basic reasoning to understand why he wouldn't propose destroying the Universes. And nothing about his demeanor or what he's actually suggests it either.
Regardless, "Goku" does not equal Universe 7, applying the application of villain to them is petty and nonsensical.
Which, again, given the situation is perhaps understandable, but that doesn't make it any less of a distortion. And also doesn't really fit "heroes of justice".
edited 20th Aug '17 6:21:37 PM by LSBK
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Did you not read "understandable"? I understand why they're upset, that doesn't mean some of them aren't milking it. Especially when (whether you agree with it or not) you keep having people saying "The Universes were going to be destroyed unless he got them this option". Which as far as all the characters know is true.
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I don't think any of these characters are thinking in those terms though.
But this is getting off track, the main point is it doesn't matter whether these people are heroes or even nice, nothing about this situation is fair and none of them deserve it. They're universes at large at least don't. You don't need to make them all out to be something they're not to make it sadder.
edited 20th Aug '17 6:31:36 PM by LSBK
Bergamo was deliberately playing it up when he had his spiel about saving the universes, and he admits later that he's always had to use underhanded tactics to survive. I'm not saying he's a dick, but he's just pragmatic. His only display of Heroism was where he was trying to give his universe another shot at surviving.
Ehhhh, she was explicitly firing a beam of emotion at them, and they exploded into smoke in her Magical Girl background. I'm willing to believe they walked away from the experience perfectly fine, having changed for the better with love in their hearts.
He was being pragmatic and manipulative, yeah, but he was doing it out of a place of desperation and a desire to save the people he's close to.
edited 20th Aug '17 6:35:50 PM by PushoverMediaCritic
Well, jar is a tool, so I guess that is breaking the rules.
I assume when they meant that, they meant tools that could deliberately be used as weapons. The Jar doesn't really do anything beyond act as the container for whoever is caught in the Mafuuba.
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And that perspective exists because they're deliberately distorting it that way. It's not a point in their favor.