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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#6251: Apr 30th 2014 at 11:29:29 AM

[up]Considering Fusion Reborn was dubbed in 2006 (11 years after the Japanese release), I don't think that'll be the case.

edited 30th Apr '14 11:29:45 AM by BaffleBlend

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#6252: Apr 30th 2014 at 12:40:48 PM

Yeah, the last time a Dragon Ball movie was made before Battle of Gods was Path to Power, in 1996. That thing wasn't dubbed by FU Nimation until 2003.

[up] The same thing happened with Wrath of the Dragon.

edited 30th Apr '14 12:43:19 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#6253: May 1st 2014 at 5:17:30 AM

Battle Of Gods won't flop even if it takes several years before it's released. It took Funimation nearly a decade before they dubbed Wrath Of The Dragon, and when it eventually got released in 2006 it sold a ton of DVD's and made Funimation a truckload of money. And keep it mind Anime was, and still is, a niche market. Believe me when Battle Of Gods gets released on DVD and Blu Ray it will sell a shit load.

edited 1st May '14 3:11:05 PM by FireShadow

johnnysasaki Since: Jun, 2012
#6254: May 1st 2014 at 1:02:49 PM

Dr.Gero's voice-actor,Kouji Yada(also known for being Roshi in Saint Seiya,Zeff in One Piece and Dyntos in Kid Icarus Uprising.)has passed away...

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#6255: May 1st 2014 at 2:09:40 PM

I didn't realize those movies were that old. I wonder why they waited so long to dub them.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#6256: May 1st 2014 at 2:25:32 PM

[up][up]

I'll say the same thing I said in the One Piece thread:

Rest In Peace Kouji.

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Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#6257: May 1st 2014 at 5:52:14 PM

Oh man, this is awesome:

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#6258: May 2nd 2014 at 3:15:42 AM

So, remember when Toriyama released that information about 16 being based on Gero's son and whatnot in the Full Colour volumes of Dragon Ball? Apparently, the latest volume is going to have some jaw droppers.

17 and 18's names have been revealed, for starters. Lapis for 17 and Lazuli for 18. 1

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#6259: May 2nd 2014 at 3:20:13 AM

Why is he waiting until now of all times to tell us this?!

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#6260: May 2nd 2014 at 6:16:49 AM

[up]Because he already waited long enough as it is, it must've never really came up before.

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#6261: May 2nd 2014 at 6:36:32 AM

is there any other interesting stuff in previous volumes?

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#6262: May 2nd 2014 at 6:38:34 AM

When you name your kid "Lapis," how do you expect him not to want to destroy the awful world that let him get that name?

Toriyama saying things.

edited 2nd May '14 9:03:12 AM by Cruherrx

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FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#6263: May 2nd 2014 at 9:18:08 AM

Rrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeebbbbooooooooooooootttttttttt... wink

But in all seriousness, Beerus was fucking involved in everything. The annihilation of the Saiyan race, great change in the structure of King Kai's planet and now it seems as though he is responsible for sealing Old Kai in a damn sword! How the hell was he able to even do that!?

Kudos to Toriyama for making Majin Buu even more terrifying. The fact he doesn't need energy to do the chaotic shit that he does, make you wonder how the hell the Z Fighters were able to defeat Buu in the end.

Being a Kai must bloody tedious, with an average lifespan of 75,000 years you'd think some of the Kai would be Driven to Suicide from pure boredom.

edited 4th May '14 10:36:46 AM by FireShadow

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#6264: May 2nd 2014 at 9:45:51 AM

Considering the universe is 14 billion years old, 75k years is immensely short. One would think they lived for millions of years.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#6265: May 2nd 2014 at 9:53:55 AM

Yeah. Beerus is way too powerful.

I think he's the kind of character who would never actually be an enemy, but more of a Too Awesome to Use type character in any other series.

[up][up] You know, I'm starting to get more and more tempted to agree with your Reboot idea.

There are a lot of things that could be done in new and interesting ways. It might be worth a try. At the least, a lot of the new info we're seeing could find it's way into the series in a Reboot. I'd leave the original Dragonball alone mostly. It's fine as it is.

Also, I think it's interesting that Goku won't be pushing the Super-Saiyan boundary any and instead focus on strengthening himself in base and regular Super Saiyan.

When you think about it, the energy consumption of 3 alone makes it so impractical, that Goku was really making a similar mistake to Frieza: having a form that was too powerful to actually use. Deciding to power himself up in Base is similar to the 24/7 Super Saiyan training he and Gohan did back in the Cell Saga.

That being said, he could still use Super Saiyan 2 I think. It has some genuine advantages over regular Super Saiyan, and lacks the massive energy consumption of 3.

edited 2nd May '14 9:55:31 AM by HandsomeRob

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FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#6266: May 2nd 2014 at 10:04:37 AM

[up] Yes, you finally see the light! Join the Dragon Ball Reboot Army! grin

But in seriousness, if Toriyama keeps on dropping bombshells like this, he'll have to eventually stop giving interviews. Because the information that he is giving is essentially retconning the whole the perspective of which the Dragon Ball Universe can be viewed in. As many characters can now back stories that can be fleshed out and appears more three dimensional in terms of personality and their motivations for what they do. The worst example being Dr Gero's backstory, that is literally a tragedy story just begging to be animated.

edited 2nd May '14 10:08:25 AM by FireShadow

qtjinla15 Since: Dec, 2010
#6267: May 2nd 2014 at 1:56:18 PM

I swear to god when he revealed the Android names I thought he was trolling. It sounds like a Minecraft joke when you think about it. But for real. Lapis and Lazuli? What is the connection?

Also Bills being Old Kai's enemy is rather interesting. I actually like that we're actually getting information and character. Took quite a few decades but better then not getting the information at all.

FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#6268: May 2nd 2014 at 2:44:23 PM

[up] Well I've done some research and Lapis Lazuli is a deep blue gem that is prized antiquity for its intense color. My guess is that the connection from Lapis Lazuli and Android 17 and 18 is Android 18 and 17 had blue eyes and were considered precious by their parents as gemstones are considered very precious and high in value.

edited 2nd May '14 4:48:06 PM by FireShadow

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#6269: May 2nd 2014 at 2:57:01 PM

Eh. In a series where people are named after Vegetables, underwear, and Breasts (Chi-Chi folk. Chi-chi.tongue), naming your kids after precious stones is hardly the worst thing you could do.

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#6270: May 2nd 2014 at 4:26:59 PM

[up] That.

The connection is that naming characters after objects is Akira Toriyama's favorite joke. The entire Ginyu Force are dairy products, for Kami's sake!

edited 2nd May '14 4:27:15 PM by TobiasDrake

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#6271: May 2nd 2014 at 4:44:15 PM

I wonder if we're ever going to get a movie that takes place after Battle of the Gods. Toriyama seems to have a lot of ideas that still haven't been explicitly shown and there is that whole multiverse bombshell. They could easily continue the series in some fashion.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#6272: May 2nd 2014 at 4:45:36 PM

isnt there gonna be a Vegeta one?or was that a joke?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#6273: May 2nd 2014 at 4:52:09 PM

I still disagree with a reboot. It'd just make things worse, there are far too many contradictory elements that exist in the Dragon Ball universe and a lot of them are shit. I'd rather they just try to avoid major world building or stacking retcons upon each other with new material. A reboot is going to be nothing but another contradictory version of the events.

There is someone on Deviant Art (The Devils Corpse) doing his own reboot project to try and piece all the official material together into something cohesive and that's what it should be: a fanwork.

Sure are a lot of retcons/rehashes with this information here. Suddenly Beers sealed Old Kaioshin? Well, the enemy that sealed Old Kaioshin was weaker than Boo. Whoops! And Goku mastering base/Super Saiyan instead of using the latter transformations? We saw that already, but this also contradicts Super Saiyan 2 being the proper way to go ahead. Then there's the Kaioshin being in lots of 3, contradicting the manga (there were 5), living 75,000 years (contradicting East Kaioshin's 5 million year lifespan), their origin (contradicting what Toriyama said in an earlier interview)... jeez.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#6274: May 2nd 2014 at 5:00:33 PM

How is a reboot just a bunch of contradictory events? That's what the status quo is now. A reboot would, hopefully, try to synthesize all those random elements into a coherent whole and reject whatever they can't fit.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#6275: May 2nd 2014 at 5:04:09 PM

Like the anime contradicts the manga and whatnot. A reboot is just a different version - we'll then have manga, anime, streamlined anime, rebooted anime. The reboot will be cohesive with itself - for a while - will contradict everything else and will later be contradicted by new information.


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