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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#62626: Aug 17th 2017 at 5:32:50 PM

Current Veggie wouldn't be that...

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#62627: Aug 17th 2017 at 5:35:42 PM

[up][up]The more that sentiment is brought up, the more I begin to disagree with it. Sasuke's issues as a character aren't a direct parallel to Vegeta in any real way, and just saying that it's because he's Naruto's rival character doesn't magically make it fit.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#62628: Aug 17th 2017 at 5:37:50 PM

Yea, the only bit of comparison you can make between Sasuke and Vegeta is that they're the main character's rival and that's where the comparisons end. Their characters are entirely different.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#62629: Aug 17th 2017 at 5:38:27 PM

Well, they both have the "elite warrior infuriated that a supposedly no talent hack is outpacing them thing" but that kind of got shit all over on with Naruto when his heritage and such was revealed.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#62630: Aug 17th 2017 at 5:38:40 PM

Glad we're shown that Beerus is very firmly above Blue.

Makes me wonder just how strong Jiren really is....

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#62631: Aug 17th 2017 at 5:41:50 PM

Not a lot of room to doubt that.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#62632: Aug 17th 2017 at 6:00:08 PM

[up][up][up]Supposedly no talent...

Kakarrot's talent is being stronger than most people...

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#62633: Aug 17th 2017 at 6:01:23 PM

He was still pathetically weak by Saiyan standards, though.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#62634: Aug 17th 2017 at 6:02:05 PM

That's not true, Goku is talented because he trains with so many different people and refines the techniques he learns to perfection. He's not immediately stronger than his rivals,, but he eventually outpaces them since he's simply that damn good at fighting and developing.

edited 17th Aug '17 6:03:01 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#62635: Aug 17th 2017 at 6:28:30 PM

Kakarrot's the one with talent...

Veggie was born rich with power...he was the talentless one...

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#62636: Aug 17th 2017 at 6:43:55 PM

Oh huh, "Shin" is the East Supreme Kai's actual name?

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#62637: Aug 17th 2017 at 6:48:09 PM

Something potentially spoilery I noticed in that Tournament of Power guide:

Universe 11 is shown with three fighters left. Does that mean next episode will have the web-using Pride Trooper drop out, but Dyspo will stick around?

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#62638: Aug 17th 2017 at 7:01:51 PM

[up]

Probably. Not surprising though, those three seem to be the big three of U11.

felipelight Teacher from Undisclosed Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#62639: Aug 17th 2017 at 8:30:32 PM

So... has anyone seen this tweet? https://mobile.twitter.com/DragonWarriorss/status/896046074393120769/photo/1

Does that make any sense or is it just gasping at straws?

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#62640: Aug 17th 2017 at 8:33:30 PM

Is that supposed to be the last people standing or something? If so, yay Piccolo.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#62641: Aug 17th 2017 at 8:39:55 PM

That's from a magazine look and find game. That is quite possibly the epitome of reaching.

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#62642: Aug 17th 2017 at 8:45:50 PM

Yeah, the text just says "Let's search! Can these items be found?"

edited 17th Aug '17 8:46:24 PM by DarkHunter

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#62643: Aug 17th 2017 at 8:48:11 PM

I wonder what's coming up next.

The tournament has been largely episodic so far, with focus subplots or episodes for characters or groups of characters. The two eliminated universes are ones that have already had focus before the tournament, but the rest... who knows? Either they'll continue to job or each is going to get their own episode. Not to mention that 18, Piccolo, Tien and Roshi (though I'm assuming Tien and Roshi will share whatever subplot they get) haven't had chances to shine on their own yet.

Plus an episode, probably more, dedicated to whatever Freeza's up to of course.

edited 17th Aug '17 8:48:28 PM by KnownUnknown

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#62644: Aug 17th 2017 at 9:00:23 PM

I am curious to how much pathos they're going to give to each universe's that doesn't have someone the audience cares about in it.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#62645: Aug 17th 2017 at 9:02:58 PM

@Moth 14: Was the fact that they're main featured Pride Troopers in the ending not obvious enough of that?

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#62646: Aug 17th 2017 at 9:20:06 PM

The fact that Dyspo's getting an episode devoted to a fight against him made me think he could be taken out by the end of it.

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
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#62647: Aug 18th 2017 at 1:50:30 AM

I've remarked on this before, but Vegeta's repeated failings, especially where catching up to Goku is concerned, are precisely what makes him a sympathetic character despite all he's done. If you allow Vegeta to be successful, you get... well, Sasuke Uchiha.

But then again, how long before it becomes really reudnadnt to have Vegeta be second fiddle? How will Goku be the stronger of the two? I actually gettng really annoyed at the trope of the hero always being ahead of the rival.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#62648: Aug 18th 2017 at 3:18:21 AM

On the other end, why should Vegeta be stronger? What does he do that Goku doesn't that pulls him ahead?

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#62649: Aug 18th 2017 at 3:41:24 AM

Touche.

Still, it would nice to throw Vegeta a bone once in awhile before Goku inevitably surpasses him and it is going to happen no matter what, it was one of the very few tropes that Toriyama {and by extension most writers of battle manga) gets played straight in Dragon Ball. It isn't Vegeta the only one who suffers but he is one of the most iconic examples of Can't Catch Up in Jump manga.

edited 18th Aug '17 3:48:37 AM by GAP

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#62650: Aug 18th 2017 at 5:00:50 AM

There have been times where Vegeta was stronger than Goku. For example, he spends most of the Android Saga stronger than him.

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