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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#62526: Aug 13th 2017 at 9:37:07 PM

Alright then leads me to a correction.

Not having a tail would ruin the monkey theme SS 4 has.

Goku is the monkey king after all as well as the fact that Saiyan's are evolved from monkeys.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#62527: Aug 14th 2017 at 4:46:21 AM

Super Saiyan 4 doesn't has a tail? I thought it just made Goku skinny and made his hair turn red. tongue

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#62528: Aug 14th 2017 at 5:15:24 AM

SSG Goku isn't skinny?

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#62529: Aug 14th 2017 at 6:21:02 AM

How would the series even work if tails weren't a thing and all Saiyans just transformed into Oozaru every single time they looked at the moon?

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#62530: Aug 14th 2017 at 7:13:50 AM

The same way as before, except the Vegeta fight would have been that much crazier. Goku only ever looked at the moon when he had a tail. Then there was no moon. Gohan only ever looked at the moon when he had a tail. Then there was no moon again.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#62531: Aug 14th 2017 at 7:30:20 AM

If Saiyans had no tails and the Oozaru thing just happened because then Bulma and Yamcha die during the very first saga because they'd have no way of stopping Oozaru Goku.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#62532: Aug 14th 2017 at 8:36:09 AM

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And it was hard enough to stop regular Goku.

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#62533: Aug 14th 2017 at 9:48:45 AM

I'm going to post my opinions on Power Levels, current and past, since I haven't done this in a while and I feel that I should reaffirm where I think everyone stands compared to each other.

Final Form Freeza (Namek): 120 million

Super Perfect Cell: 6.3 billion

Kid Buu: 30 billion

Super Vegetto: 250 billion

The U7 team, currently.

Goku/Vegeta: 300 million, SS1: 15 billion, SS2: 30 billion, SS3: 120 billion, SBG: 600 billion, SSB: 30 trillion, SSBKK: 60 trillion

Gohan: 300 million, Ultimate: 15 trillion

Piccolo: 35 billion

Freeza 4th form: 550 billion, Golden: 27.5 trillion

17: 10 trillion

18: 500 million

Krillin: 270 million

Tenshinhan: 250 million

Roshi: 200 million

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#62534: Aug 14th 2017 at 11:20:20 AM

Don't see why 17 wouldn't use his barrier, it's pragmatic and has helped him several times. It's very effective, it would dumb if he didn't use it.

Anyway, i wonder if by the end we'll finally see Zalama.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#62536: Aug 14th 2017 at 11:34:29 AM

[up][up]We've been over this, it's not in-story reasons, it's lazy writing that's the problem.

And, again, making barriers is not 17's "thing"; he has only done it once before in-story and it's not something that is unique to him.

edited 14th Aug '17 11:35:39 AM by LSBK

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#62537: Aug 14th 2017 at 11:40:52 AM

It would be interesting if they did make him a Barrier Warrior though, its not something Dragon Ball has really done yet.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#62538: Aug 14th 2017 at 11:42:44 AM

[up][up]It's his thing because it's his most iconic move and the easiest way to differentiate him from all the other fighters.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#62539: Aug 14th 2017 at 11:43:47 AM

[up]That's still poor reasoning. Krillin's "thing" is the Kienzan but that didn't make him using it in the tournament any less stupid. And I'm pretty sure most people know who 17 and everyone on Universe 7 team are, they don't need gimmicks to stand out.

If you're taking this to its logical pragmatic extreme, he has no real reason to ever let the barrier down. He has infinite energy and stamina, and has shown the ability to move and control it. Going by that logic, he and his sister have no reason not to do it.

But that's not how it's being used, and the reasons for that are pretty easy to figure out.

edited 14th Aug '17 11:47:56 AM by LSBK

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#62540: Aug 14th 2017 at 12:34:59 PM

Can 17 project the barrier to where he is no longer inside of it?

Can he project barriers on other teammates as well?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#62541: Aug 14th 2017 at 12:53:50 PM

No, he's pretty much useless...

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#62542: Aug 14th 2017 at 2:54:05 PM

They should be more creative in its usage or yeah just make 17 a straight up barrier warrior.

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#62543: Aug 14th 2017 at 2:58:49 PM

But this is Dragon Ball, 17 would be a meat shield at best.

"Mai waifu."
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#62544: Aug 14th 2017 at 4:21:36 PM

17 played the villain for Ribrianne. Goku played the villain for Toppo. Frieza is outright evil.

Universe 7 really IS the evil team.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#62545: Aug 14th 2017 at 4:31:32 PM

Hopefully Vegeta gets into it too.

edited 14th Aug '17 4:57:28 PM by LSBK

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#62546: Aug 14th 2017 at 4:50:56 PM

He was two arcs ahead of everyone

I wonder why no-one seems to have watched the U 6 tournament beside Gowasu.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#62547: Aug 14th 2017 at 4:58:26 PM

I assume Cappa will be the last one from Universe 6 and Vegeta will be the one to knock him off. At which point people will start going to Vegeta killed everyone in Universe 6 because apparently that's what's happening now.

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#62548: Aug 14th 2017 at 5:12:19 PM

So the cahracters are playing a role for noble as well as conceited reasons?

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#62549: Aug 14th 2017 at 5:15:18 PM

[up][up]

The other Gods of Destruction weren't into Godtube? Maybe they were into Divineflix instead?

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#62550: Aug 14th 2017 at 5:31:55 PM

Nah, they just like their equivalent to cat videos.

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